Defunding the Police and the Rise of American Warlords

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  1. ChiefWPD

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    Defunding the Police and the Rise of American Warlords

    I find the idea of doing away with organized police forces an interesting one. In point of fact, for most of the history of humankind, there have been no state-sponsored and overseen law enforcement. Such matters of public concern were handled by either the military or local Warlords. Warlords are quite common even today.

    In Mexico such individuals are generically referred to as “drug lords.” While the marketing of illicit drugs is the economic life-blood of such people, their actual position in Mexican society is more nuanced, and better described by the title Warlords.

    Law enforcement in Mexico has broken down to the degree where Warlords in that nation have more control over the lives of citizens in regard their wellbeing then is afforded them by structured law enforcement. Indeed, I’ve read that at least some of these Warlords, in order to maintain control over the geographical areas they oversee, build schools, recreational and medical facilities, as well as handle some aspects of their region’s infrastructure, tasks which the Mexican government would appear to be incapable of doing.

    In Afghanistan and Pakistan, at least from my understanding of the social and governmental situations in those two nations, large swaths of those countries are under the de-facto control of Warlords. United States military leaders working in those nations must recognize and interact with such persons in order to accomplish whatever missions they have been assigned.

    The area now referred to as the People’s Republic of China had a myriad number of such strong-men, their size and power varied with the region of the land they occupied:

    Ø Anhui clique
    Ø Zhili clique
    Ø Fengtian clique
    Ø Shanxi clique
    Ø Guominjun
    Ø Ma clique
    Ø Xinjiang clique
    Ø Kuomintang
    Ø Communist Party
    Ø Yunnan clique
    Ø Guizhou warlords
    Ø Old Guangxi clique
    Ø New Guangxi clique
    Ø Guangdong warlords
    Ø Sichuan clique
    Ø Hunan warlords

    Organized crime, which every nation on the planet has to some degree, is run by Warlords, although they may be known as crime bosses. I have read that organized crime, and criminality, thrives especially in totalitarian societies. This due to the fact that the police aren’t really in place to aid the citizenry, but rather to protect state interests, and that the disappearance of someone is not something out of the ordinary, or a matter it would be prudent to complain to the authorities about.

    Organized crime groups are quite common in the United States, which has a remarkably diverse number of such entities. Yes, I know we give such leaders different titles, Mafia boss being one favorite. But whether the ethnic group is from South America (M-13), originated from Italy (Mafia or Casa Nostra), was made up of Jews (Murder Inc., and today now much of the “Russian Mafia”), or of any other ethnic, social or religious group, they are all run by some strong leader, a Warlord.

    It wasn’t that long ago that major gun battles took place on the streets of New York City between various Warlord led organized crime groups; Jewish gangsters fought gun battles with Italians ones1, Irish internecine warfare took place not only in New York City but in a number of large American cities. Murder Inc was made up mostly of Italian and Jewish gangsters largely from Brooklyn, usually Brownsville and East New York. Murder Inc was responsible for anywhere from 500 to 1000 contract killings.2
    1(https://www.history.com/news/7-infamous-gangs-of-new-york)
    2(https://guides.lib.jjay.cuny.edu/c.php?g=288393&p=1922652)

    Warlords have a penchant for corrupting political and law enforcement agencies. For many years the FBI was a vital tool of the Bulger gang in Boston, resulting in not only the incarceration of people for crimes they never committed (some for decades, at least one dying in prison), but a significant number of homicides took place aided by the information given the Bulger gang by Boston Bureau agents.

    A lieutenant in the MA State Police had his career destroyed when he attempted to deal with the matter, as the Bulger group had a tremendous amount of political power as well. Life is not fair.

    This next may be unsettling, but below see some of the crime groups now operating within the United States. The types of crimes they commit, the level of violence they are comfortable in exercising, and the degree they are willing to come into conflict with law enforcement varies:

    Ø 14K (triad)
    Ø 18th Street gang
    Ø Abergil crime family
    Ø Albanian mafia
    Ø American Mafia
    Ø Bamboo Union
    Ø Barrio Azteca
    Ø Barrow Gang
    Ø Benson Syndicate
    Ø Big Circle Gang
    Ø Boricua Popular Army
    Ø Breed Motorcycle Club
    Ø Cape Verdean organized crime
    Ø Chaldean Mafia
    Ø Cornbread Mafia
    Ø Coyote (person)
    Ø DarkMarket
    Ø Dinner Set Gang
    Ø Dixie Mafia
    Ø Greek mafia
    Ø Hells Angels
    Ø Irish Mob
    Ø Israeli mafia
    Ø The Lanzetta Brothers
    Ø Latin Kings (gang)
    Ø Lenox Avenue Gang
    Ø Yakuza syndicates
    Ø MS-13
    Ø National Crime “Syndicate”
    Ø 'Ndrangheta
    Ø Ozone Park Boys
    Ø Ping On
    Ø Rudaj Organization
    Ø Russian mafia
    Ø Satanas (gang)
    Ø Seattle crime family
    Ø Serbian mafia
    Ø ShadowCrew
    Ø Shower Posse
    Ø Fujian gang
    Ø Snakehead (gang)
    Ø Sons of Silence
    Ø State Line Mob
    Ø The Company (Hawaiian organized crime)
    Ø Thief in law
    Ø Tong (organization)
    Ø Ukrainian mafia
    Ø United Freedom Front
    Ø Westies
    Ø Yakuza
    Ø Yo****omi Group
    Ø Los Zetas

    Most sophisticated organized crime leaders find it best to bribe officials to do their bidding rather than to either become politically involved or because to perform certain overt activities would bring “heat” down upon them. It’s simply just bad for business. They have found it to be cheaper and more effective to buy elected officials and law enforcement.

    For example, Al Capone, a true American Warlord, had numerous judges, political leaders and police officers on his payroll. On occasion an honest police officer would be assigned a location where Capone was doing business. This would be a problem. Capone was never upset with the honest officer, or caused the man trouble. Capone simply had the officer transferred to a location which would not cause any difficulty for his illicit operations.

    Back to the underlying reason I’m writing this piece, the suggestion that police departments can be done away with, at least in some parts of the nation.

    Well, I certainly agree, this can be done. The results might prove “interesting,” and would likely have the most impact on people at the lower end of the nation’s socio-economic spectrum. I would also like to share my observation that most Warlords are not of the progressive/liberal philosophy, which seems to be the prevailing political position taken by advocates of ridding ourselves of police departments.

    None the less, you may be comforted to know that Warlords do comport themselves according to community standards, as defined by them.

    There is a dependable progression of events to be seen when an organized society decides to abrogate its responsibilities to protect its citizens, as would be the case with the removal of police protection for our nation’s citizens. People, upon coming to the realization that they are now truly on their own for their personal safety, and for the protection of their property, will begin to form up into self-protection groups, having no other real option.

    Once organized, such groups soon find they need funds in order to function. Invariably these entities devolve into money generating operations; extortion (protection tax…), the sale of illicit but desired products and services, etc. Strong men rise to the position of leadership (becoming the Warlord). Of course, once one or more of these groups see that other groups around them are more successful in their acquisition of power and money, conflicts will arise. This will result in gang warfare, generally quite violent in execution. A clash of the Warlords if you will.

    Our system is imperfect, mainly because it’s operated by humans, a far from perfect species. Rest assured, as our nation has in it a million law enforcement officers, with thousands of police/citizen contacts each day, each one having the potential for some sort of unpredictable violent controversial interaction, our nation will be in a constant, perhaps daily, state of rage for the foreseeable future.

    So, in short, yes, you can eliminate the police in many parts of the nation. I promise you it will lead to interesting media coverage of the predictable ensuing chaos.

    Ought to provide a good deal of diversion for our nation’s citizens and at the same time allow the media to wax eloquent about the ineffective policing taking place while also bitterly complaining about any video recorded violence on the part of police officers seen while the officers attempt to stop the mayhem.
     
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    Defund away! I plan to become one of the warlords.
     
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    Excuse me, but that was my plan!
     
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    LET THE TURF WARS BEGIN!!:dancing:
     
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    Doing away with a traditional police force is an open invitation by the people in power to all the drug cartels, biker gangs and all rest of the criminal element that commit illegal activities, like breaking and entering, robbery,rape, thefts, assaults, etc,etc.
    These Democrat run and controlled cities will become **much worse**, crime ridden ****holes than they are today.
     
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    A conservative drug lord could kill off hundreds of useless leftie idiots.. and all the old group of leftie union leaders and political hacks. Keep businesses running and keep crime from causing problems to working people and business owners. You would in fact recreate a police organization that holds the ability to kill problem people.

    Might be an ok thing compared to what we have now with police run by corrupt leftie political hacks and bending over for teachers union indoctrination of our children.
     
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    How has it worked to take prayer and mention of God out of schools? Also, the 10 Commandments and our constitution removed from classrooms. along with perverted sex and perverted homosexual life styles promoted in schools and accepted in some ungodly so called churches?

    The Murder of babies shedding of innocent blood, grows and no many even grunt, let alone protest or demonstrate. Where are the liberals protesting that? They don't; rather promote and fund it.

    God has noted it and his wrath is kindled greatly. America has had space to repent of their ungodliness, but has not repented. Expect God to allow our enemies to come against America; from without and from within.
    There is an ungodly degenerated, rottenness. America has mingled the ungodly cultures of other nations with what was once a nation after God and founded on the word of God.

    Proverbs 13:44 Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.
    Palm 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

    This is a Sunday message in case you missed church service today. or your preacher likes to preach smooth thing, not to offend anyone.

    Wicked people will always do what wickedness they can get by with.
    Where do police fit into God's plan for order? SEE BELOW.
    ROM 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
     
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    While the left tries to paint conservatives and anyone on the right as NAZIS the Fact remains that the NAZIS were in fact socialists

    NAZI stands for Nationalist Socialist Party.

    Socialist are and always have been a culture of totalitarian Govt. And wholesale genocide.
     
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    It's a big country, we can both be warlords.
     
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    If you think the police sometimes use excessive force, just wait and see what happens when there are no police.
    If you think taxes are high, the gangs charge much more for "protection".
     
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    In these cities you will have to turn in or register ***ALL*** your guns for this to work right, have a license for your guns, to get your limited amount of highly taxed ammo, high price liability firearm insurance, and if you don’t do everything just right forever, we are coming after you.
     
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