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Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by Wasatch, Aug 31, 2007.
Living in Memphis,TN
There was no "Defining Moment" for me. I don't remember a time when I didn't know how to ride a horse or shoot a rifle and pistol (my mother has pics of me riding pretty much the day I started walking).
Until I left Montana I never thought the question would come up, never thought it WAS a QUESTION.
Then I joined Uncle Sams Big Green Gun Club. What a non-firearms friendly organization that is. First place I got stationed I learned I needed to be 21 to have a Pistol AND couldnt carry it anywhere when I did turn 21. Ive been to lots of places where I was told my guns were NOT WELCOME. Once I was in a unit that the Commander requested a LIST of all people who owned a POF (Personally Owned Firearm). Luckily I was the Training SGT of that unit and somehow my name didnt make it on the list, despite my CCW in my wallet for that particular state. Since I spent so much time in places where I just plain couldnt take ANY firearm. Places where I spent a whole day filling out paperwork and going through government inspections OF my Firearms, and was then told I had to keep them locked up in an approved container. I got a real liking for the 2nd Amendment. Some would say I actually cherish this Constitutional Right.
Now that I am retired from that career I dont go anywhere where my CCW is not accepted (except of course the local Army Hospital, and VA Hospital). My policy is simple. With the before noted exceptions (and I will be glad when SCOTUS throws them and their laws and regulations out).
I do not carry (my wallet) any place where I cannot carry (my handguns).
I was 16 and a buddy and I were swimming in some old quarries after strinning fence for his dad one summer, there were 3 couples already there (suits not required in the late 60s & early 70's). 3 rednecks with a single shot 12 ga showed up and harrased us for about 45 min, made the girls do jumping jacks etc, butt stroked one of the boy friends when he objected. They finnally got scared off when they thought they heard someone coming.
I swore that day no man would ever lord over me like that again, next pay day my buddy and I each bought M-1 carbines and carried them every time we went to the quarries. Fortuanatly we never enountered our "friends" again.
I applied for my CCW the day I turned 21, and was pissed to find out that in Indiana I could have gotten it at 18. I have carried almost every day since (30+ years) and have had a couple occasions to show I was armed.
With all the crazyness going on today I NEVER leave home unarmedand do not spend any $$$$ with places that post.
I broke down in the bad part of town one time, and some very suspicious characters were taking a keen interest in my situation. I only had a knife on me. I decided from then out I never wanted to be in a situation where a group of thugs had the upper hand over me because I wasn't armed.
I was also followed around once by a blazer packed with guys who were out for blood, for some reason or other over a girl. I had never met any of them before. I drove to the police station as I was running out of gas and I told the person at the window what was going on, and that the guys were parked on the street waiting for me, and they would do nothing, not so much as telling them to shoo. So I just waited in the PD, waited and waited, and finally they left. I went to get gas, didn't see them again, and decided again that I would never be underarmed. Made a point to have a gun on me somehow even though I wasn't of legal age to carry from then on. I didn't break the law, but I had a trunk gun until I could get my concealed carry license. Now I make a habit to carry enough ammunition to handle groups of people like the ones that threatened me before.
For me, it was getting engaged. Virginia Tech incident got my attention, then my soon-to-be wife moving out to CA brought it even more to my attention. I got her a rifle to keep under the bed at home, then several times she would call me telling me she didn't want to go out at night. It occurred to me that I'm not always going to be at home, and neither I nor us, especially in the future with a family, should be anything less than prepared. The thing about getting married and being more responsible really spoke loud and clear to me that CCW is an essential part of it as being protector of the spouse (though she'll get hers as soon as she's out of the PRK) and family as well as being a responsible citizen.
For me it was camping in a state park here in VA early in the year and there was no one there except for me and my girlfriend. Had someone(s) walked up on us there is nothing we could have done. That is what urged me to buy my G26. The CCW was to provide more options in carrying it.
Awesome situational awareness (and your .45) probably saved your life.
I am headed to the court house on Monday to apply for my CCW. I don't know why I have waited so long. Looking back I have always put myself in situations where if I needed help in a hostile situation there would be no one around to help. Over the summer I was biking in Arlington VA to Mount Vernon and of all places almost got mugged in Old Town Alexandria. I had a guy run up behind me while I was on my bike and try to take me down with a metal pipe. Fortunately I hear him coming by his feet hitting the pavement and looked behind me to see the pipe over his head getting ready to strike. I pumped outta there and out ran him. I got a few blocks away and called the cops. Being a concerned citizen I waited for the cops, saw a cruiser 3 blocks away with its lights on. Hopped on my bike and headed toward the cruiser. upon entering one of the intersections between me and the cop the BG appeared and started chasing me again. I turned and again in the opposite direction. This time he really chased me on foot. Far enough to where any police were now out of site. I would have kept going until I saw a lady on the bike trail walking her dogs. I stopped to look out for this lady and warn her and by this time he was about 20 yards away. I about 6' 200lbs and when i got off my bike and picked it up to show that my bike was a bigger weapon than his metal pipe I guess he changed his mind and walked back to town. All in all I look back and realize it could have been far worse if I had not had a bike or he had a gun. Theres a lot more to this story but you can bet for now on when mountain biking or where ever allowed I will be carrying.
Simply enough: i just live in a ****ed up area with a bunch of unpredictable people....
Had a girlfriend whose ex-boyfriend was a local gang member. We broke up, and she went back to him. Next thing I know, I am being told that I won't know where, when, or who, but I am going to get beat down soon. Called the local cops who said they couldn't do anything. I didn't make a move without being legally armed for quite awhile after that.
Still didn't get my CCW for another 6 years. Of course, 4 of those years were spent in MD.
It was never a question of whether I should or not. My grandparents carried, my parents carry, it's a "family tradition".
There have been some very close calls in my family, over the years. I've typed them all out before. When next I take the time to type them, I'll save them to a file, as this question has come up numerous times in the past, and will be revisited again in the future.
Just observing all the mouth breathers at my local Wal Mart made me want to get my CCW. Very inspiring.
I got a couple of PMs asking for the other details...
It took the cops more than 20mins to arrive, the officers on scene asked if I was armed (I wasn't) and once everything got straightened out she (the officer) said carrying a form of self defense is maybe something that I should consider since a lot of bike trails go through remote and secluded areas where help in such a situation is not readily available. I then kind of stated the obvious that I/we were in a city and help still wasn't readily available referencing the 20min response time they had. She agreed. Then I come to find out that the old lady walking her dogs that I stopped to safeguard personally new the perp and was never scared of him. He was the regular town idiot apparently. The cops took him to the hospital since he was mental. They told me to go to the magistrates office the next day and press charges to insure he goes to trial and gets locked up. I did so and the magistrate told me that they actually arrested him while he was at the hospital because he was assaulting the orderly and now with my story was able to attach two more charges (attempted assault and I don't really remember the other). Then the magistrate told me the same thing the female cop said about carrying.
Another time I was hiking in Great Falls VA with a girl I was dating and we came across a few park rangers arresting someone. By the time we arrive on the scene they had the guy secured in a car and he wasn't around. I asked what happened and the ranger said he was threatening hikers with a bowie knife. The ranger then proceeded to carry on with a discarded weapons search. We didn't stick around long enough to know if they found the knife. I was a lot younger then and at the time didn't realize that if my girl and I were an hour earlier we may have been in a similar situation like I was in Old Town Alexandria.
After hearing about the VA Tech shootings which I have a few friends effected by it, and the mall and church shootings I realized that the only one looking out for my immediate well being is myself. So as being a responsible citizen and having the rights to protect myself and others I figured its in my best interest to get a CCW.
I grew up with guns, always had a handgun (since college at least) and living in TX and CO I always thought "no big deal, it's in the car if I need it".
Last spring I was at Walmart with my wife and 1 yr old and I notice the lady behind us in line is crying and shaking like a leaf (she also has a 1 yr old with her). I ask her what's wrong and she explains that she's a county jail guard and a guy she tazed is stallking her through the store, she left her badge and gun in the car.
I ended up escorting her out and the dirtbag is walking the lot with three buddies looking for her (as she's telling me all the bad stuff he's been locked up for), I get her and her kid in the car and my wife pulls up and I hop in the truck and she has my .45 on her lap and the first thing she asks is when I'm getting my permit.
I'm glad I did, I'm safer and learned a lot, still don't know why in the hell I didn't sit tight inside and wait for the cops to get there. (much less why she didn't know to) Just glad I know better now and am better prepared.
I live about an hour away from New Orleans... Do I really need another reason?
I protected my country for over twenty-three years while serving in the military. It was okay to protect my country, the Constitution, Bill of Rights and to protect our freedom.
These same politicains wanted to ban guns and deny me the same rights that I fought for. These politicains have bodyguards, Secret Service Agents and so-on to protect them and their families. BUT they didn't see any reason that anyone else should have the same right! I think I earned that right like every other law-abiding citizen in the United States has.
I have my CCW and I carry everyday! My wife is in the waiting period to get her permit. Both of my children have been shooting since they were 7 years old. I will protect my family with the same force and same way that I defended my country!!!
If you don't have your CCW you are only fooling yourself that bad things will never happen to you or your loved ones. CCW is your RIGHT and you should use it before some politicain takes it away from you!
September 11th was my defining moment. It became readily apparent to me that we are all responsible for ourselves that day, and by the 12th I was standing in a gun store contemplating my second ever gun purchase (first was my Sig Pro that I had bought for home defense 8 months earlier), my Glock 26. I signed up for the CCW class that same day as well.
I usually carried outside of work only after that, but a few months later some guys robbed a nearby liquor store with shot guns and were last seen running into the building I worked in. I still have vivid memories of seeing the SWAT team entering a stairwell searching for them while I was in a glass elevator heading up to my floor. After that, I have just about always carried at all times (short of visits to the bar).
I'm one of those that's a little late getting my CHL. I'm 27 and am going to take the class next Saturday. I recently bought a Walther P22(cheap ammo for when I want to shoot all day without going broke) and a Glock 26(will be my carry gun, but for now is my in-car gun).
Fortunately I've never been in any situations where I've needed to defend myself. So there wasn't really a defining moment for me, just the slow realizations that it's only part of being responsible.
Being near a campus shooting will wake you the hell up.
They can tell me all they want about how April 16th was an anomaly... the only anomaly to me was that I didn't get into German that year and if I had, I might have been one of those 32 memorial stones I have to walk by every day on the way to class.
I don't need someone to decide when I am safe- I will be responsible for my own safety, as I should be. My permit is currently pending.
The night my daughter was born was the defining moment of my life. And it's a messed up world out there. I carry my G27 everywhere it is legal to do so here in Maine. Shoot as often as I can. If I had the money I'd open an indoor range. We really don't have anywhere to shoot when it's 30 degrees and snowing (like today)... winter is REALLY long here.
Was talking to the Dep. Chief of our city pd at a get together the other night. He said he did not carry off-duty. Asked me the expected questions... did I have a permit, take a safety class, know the laws... yes, yes, yes. As he patted me on the back he said something like "That's great. I wish more people did all of those things, including carry."
Next to my Concealed Weapons Permit in my wallet, I carry the business card of the attorney who taught the legal portion of my safety class.
I actually feel naked and vulnerable when not carrying.