hi guys, anybody here load their defense ammo? factory ammo is so expensive here, cant afford to practice with them. available here is hornady xtp heads and winchester brass from stronghand. care to share recipies? for 9mm; 115gr xtp + 5.9gr N340 win brass + wsp and 1.142" oal. velocity about 1300 from glock 34. for .45; 200gr xtp + 6.8gr N340 win brass + wlp and 1.240" oal. velocity about 920 from glock 21. above loads shows nice expansion when shot thru water jugs, will try the wet phonebook next. will post pics later for .38; ? any comments, suggestions?