Death of George Floyd in Minneapolis is a Result of Approved Minneapolis Police Training

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by DonGlock26, Jun 7, 2020.

  1. DonGlock26


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    "Larry C. Johnson: Death of George Floyd in Minneapolis is a Result of Approved Minneapolis Police Training

    By Jim Hoft
    Published June 7, 2020 at 9:30am

    The Minneapolis police officers accused of murdering George Floyd are being railroaded and are likely to be exonerated once the full evidence is presented. This does not mean that I approve of or endorse how the Minneapolis cops handled the situation. But the video that has enraged so many people is very misleading.

    If you are part of the mob ready to lynch Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin for the “murder” of George Floyd, you may have to put your rope away. I think Chauvin will be able to prove in court that his use of his knee on the side of the neck of Floyd was a technique he had been trained to use by the Minneapolis Police Department. It is in the training manual and has been on the books for more than eight years. Don’t take my word for it, read it yourself:

    5-311 USE OF NECK RESTRAINTS AND CHOKE HOLDS (10/16/02) (08/17/07) (10/01/10) (04/16/12)


    Choke Hold: Deadly force option. Defined as applying direct pressure on a person’s trachea or airway (front of the neck), blocking or obstructing the airway (04/16/12)

    Neck Restraint: Non-deadly force option. Defined as compressing one or both sides of a person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway (front of the neck). Only sworn employees who have received training from the MPD Training Unit are authorized to use neck restraints. The MPD authorizes two types of neck restraints: Conscious Neck Restraint and Unconscious Neck Restraint. (04/16/12)

    Conscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with intent to control, and not to render the subject unconscious, by only applying light to moderate pressure. (04/16/12)

    Unconscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with the intention of rendering the person unconscious by applying adequate pressure. (04/16/12)


    The Conscious Neck Restraint may be used against a subject who is actively resisting. (04/16/12)

    The Unconscious Neck Restraint shall only be applied in the following circumstances: (04/16/12)
    On a subject who is exhibiting active aggression, or;

    For life saving purposes, or;

    On a subject who is exhibiting active resistance in order to gain control of the subject; and if lesser attempts at control have been or would likely be ineffective.

    Neck restraints shall not be used against subjects who are passively resisting as defined by policy. (04/16/12)

    After Care Guidelines (04/16/12)

    After a neck restraint or choke hold has been used on a subject, sworn MPD employees shall keep them under close observation until they are released to medical or other law enforcement personnel.
    An officer who has used a neck restraint or choke hold shall inform individuals accepting custody of the subject, that the technique was used on the subject.

    The crucial question will be whether George Floyd “exhibited active aggression.” The video record of the incident is incomplete. New footage has emerged that shows Floyd in the vehicle and he is not sitting passively. The new video shows evidence of a struggle aka “active aggression.”

    I am not defending the use of this type of restraint. But I am pretty certain that evidence will emerge showing that Chauvin was trained to use the knee to the neck as a means of “non-violent” restraint. The key questions Chauvin’s lawyer will be asking regarding this training will include the following:

    1. Did the training manual specify a maximum amount of time that a knee could be applied to a suspect’s neck?
    2. Did the training manual carry a clear warning that use of this technique could cause the death of a suspect?
    If the answers to those two questions are “NO”, then Officer Chauvin’s defense is quite clear. "

    Where are the police body cam videos??? :dunno:
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  2. Guss


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    If the training implied it was OK, that means big $$$ in the lawsuit.

  3. Gundude


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    How can an unconscious person be showing active aggression? I doubt the manual has to state that once the conditions of applying the technique no longer exist, the technique should no longer be applied.
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  4. seamaster


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    His defense will be, "this is what I was trained to do!"

    And he will be found not guilty, then sadly we'll have another round of riots!
  5. Dukeboy01

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    My thought is that Minneapolis city officials from the mayor on down have been sitting on the footage, dreading the day it comes out.

    They tried to protect their interests by pandering to the mobs by firing the officers quickly, probably in violation of their contract and the city's civil service rules, and hoped that would keep the lid on. It didn't.

    Then the rest of the country blew up and it was too late.

    My speculation based on training and experience is that the bodycam footage is going to show a struggle that made the initial application of the knee to neck restraint justifiable by policy initially. At some point in the incident it became unjustified and Chauvin's case will turn on what point that was.

    I think allowing that technique by policy was foolish, but that decision was made by others far above Chauvin's paygrade. I'vr said this before: If you leave a tool in the toolbox, don't be surprised if somebody picks it up.
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  6. EAJuggalo


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    I can hear Ellison's reply now. "We can't release those videos because they may cause prejudice among our jury pool in Hennepin County."
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  7. thewitt


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    The facts in the case will not matter. The officer will be found guilt, go to prison, and be killed there. It's not about the facts.
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