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Spit into an open incision seems pretty unsafe. Spit hitting a box on a shelf, or even my arm, seems pretty benign.
Before this pandemic, did you talk to people face to face? Been on the receiving end of spittle? Spittle shower on others? Been on both ends.
 

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I have yet to see any well designed study showing masks do much of anything concerning their current intended use and with respect to the types of masks used against containing this virus.

A person would think that info would be readily available.

I can't speak to much of anything concerning the OSHA story on this thread other than to say that these disposable masks were never intended for this role.

I would like to see some research as to what happens to all the pathogens a person exhales when masking. To breath we are taking in and expelling the same volume of air. With or without the mask.

If the pathogens are contained in the mask...then why is it okay to reuse them and why aren't there proper disposal areas for these germ infested masks

If, on the other hand, the pathogens escape the mask then what's the point? We now have a condensed cloud of germs around your face.
 

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Agreed. Then the faithful masker fills their Virtue Mask with germs, touches it, then spreads their concentrated yuck on everything they touch.
A woman adjusted *my* mask last weekend. I had a bag of softener salt in each hand and my mask was fanning upwards almost over my eyes. I stopped to let a women exit before me. She looked at me, laughed, reached over and pulled my mask down.
 

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Before this pandemic, did you talk to people face to face? Been on the receiving end of spittle? Spittle shower on others? Been on both ends.
Yes, and every one of them could have had a potentially fatal communicable disease. Did you wear a mask?
 

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Before this pandemic, did you talk to people face to face? Been on the receiving end of spittle? Spittle shower on others? Been on both ends.
This helped your immune system. Ever eat in a restaurant? Chefs yell, A LOT! Spittle gets in your food all the time. Waiters/waitresses yell to be heard in the kitchen all the time, their spittle gets in as they are picking up your food, and our immune systems benefited from this, we even thrived deSPITe this.
 

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This helped your immune system. Ever eat in a restaurant? Chefs yell, A LOT! Spittle gets in your food all the time. Waiters/waitresses yell to be heard in the kitchen all the time, their spittle gets in as they are picking up your food, and our immune systems benefited from this, we even thrived deSPITe this.
Especially when you complain and send food back!:dancingbanana:
 

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For those that didn't read the article two of the researchers were Thomas Lars Benfield, professor of infectious diseases at Hvidovre Hospital near Copenhagen and Henning Bundgaard, professor of cardiology and chief physician at Rigshospitalet which is the premier hospital in Denmark and affiliated with the University of Copenhagen. Pretty hard to use the term "science denier" for people with those types of credentials. The story was run October 22 in Berlingske Tidende which is one of the two main newspapers in Copenhagen.
 

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The reputable peer reviewed journals refuse to publish the study because of suspected , but unproven , compliance bias
how do you know the mask group wore the mask , and the non mask group did NOT wear a mask?
Such study designs, however have been published on multiple occasions throughout the medical literature.
Politics?
 

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Makes sense. I’m pretty sure the masks people wear keeps their spittle from flying around. Seems like a win-win. :drink:
If we were all walking around with our chest cavities open & exposed, then your analogy would be correct. Surgery is different from everyday life.
 

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Yes, and every one of them could have had a potentially fatal communicable disease. Did you wear a mask?
Will you wear a mask for the rest of your life?

There is always a chance you could be carrying a potentially fatal communicable disease.
 

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Will you wear a mask for the rest of your life?

There is always a chance you could be carrying a potentially fatal communicable disease.
Not me. I wear one now when required. When this over, I will wear one when it makes sense. When one of my children was born, my wife was kept in a negative pressure isolation ward. I wore a complete gown and mask as required. I would also wear one while mowing the lawn to reduce ingesting grass, and dirt particles.

when I am sick, I stay home.
 

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This helped your immune system. Ever eat in a restaurant? Chefs yell, A LOT! Spittle gets in your food all the time. Waiters/waitresses yell to be heard in the kitchen all the time, their spittle gets in as they are picking up your food, and our immune systems benefited from this, we even thrived deSPITe this.
Yep and I was blissfully unconcerned before the pandemic.
 

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Yep and I was blissfully unconcerned before the pandemic.
I still don’t care. I care if a spittle great gobs when I speak to someone face to face, but that is just embarrassing to me, not concerned that I have infected them with a plague.
 

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So if y’all have open heart surgery, you good with the docs and nurses skipping the face mask? :drink:
You should read up on what masks are designed to protect against. Doctors wear masks and clean their hands, operating rooms when they cut you open in an effort to keep you from getting a bacterial infection. Bacterial infections like Staph and such are serious concerns even in 2020. If you read the fine print on the boxes of masks, even the coveted N95’s you’ll realize they do not protect against viruses. If they did folks working in labs could save millions of $$ on PPE by only using N95’s. Instead they use protection actually designed to prevent viruses from entering their systems. Man my profit sharing checks would be through the roof if N95 were acceptable in those environments.

Masks are symbolic. Dr. Falsie said so himself. They will stop globs of spittle abs remind you to keep your distance. They may or may not help with you messing with your face/eyes.

Before this pandemic, did you talk to people face to face? Been on the receiving end of spittle? Spittle shower on others? Been on both ends.
Nope. I don’t hang out with drooling retards. I neither allow people into my personal space aka face nor do I get in others space. I guess I was social distancing before it was cool.

It’s amazing how folks adamant that masks are effective against viruses worry about those around them not wearing them. If they truly worked, those with masks are safe and only those without are at risk.
 

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The reputable peer reviewed journals refuse to publish the study because of suspected , but unproven , compliance bias
how do you know the mask group wore the mask , and the non mask group did NOT wear a mask?
Such study designs, however have been published on multiple occasions throughout the medical literature.
Politics?
That's a good point. Did the three journals that have refused to publish the study explicitly say this? If so, it does make the case (as you point out) for political bias.
 
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