Dangerous situation

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  1. LinuxLover

    LinuxLover Ba-nan-nah-nuh

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    I say that some tires can tolerate it, but think for a moment....

    If you rotate and the tires actually DO wear evenly, then in a while you have 4 tires to replace all at the same time.

    That's a marketing ploy - one to which I didn't comply even though the suppliers wanted me to post a 5-point or 4-point tire rotation poster for my clients to see.

    It generates a lot of business - and a lot of busy work - for a fee for the shops at the same time.

    IF you have a certified reason to move a tire from one position to another, I suggest that you start with new tires at the rear and as the previous set of front tires wear out, then ONE TIME - move the good rears to the front and put the new pair on the rear.

    For a singular reason, I say that and we can discuss it later if you wanna.
     
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    This happened on my way back from Ocotillo wells on Sunday. I was about 220 miles into a 280mile trip. Saw it in the rear view mirror and luckily pulled over. Had all the right tools and was back on the road in <20 minutes! I don't even want to think about how bad it would have been if it blew.... 20201018_162805.jpg 20201018_161607.jpg 20201018_161559.jpg
     
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  3. Lt. Donn

    Lt. Donn PSO Survivor. currently in NW Georgia

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    IDK...having been a "wrencher" in a previous life, I want to trust the engineers who write the owners manuals...Is the OP saying the Car Manufacturers are in cahoots with the tire people to sell more tires?...I mean every modern car co I am aware of tells owners to front-to-back rotation every 10k miles...and I have been doing just that for 55 yrs of driving, ??...maybe I have been wrong all these years
     
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    uzimon Daca is caca

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    Ive seen it when i sold tires
     
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    I've never wanted to rotate tires...so I don't. Thanks for explaining.
     
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    Geeorge Sarcasm Inc.

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    Are you letting the tires warm up before you check the temp and set them at 36psi? If you are doing it with the tires cold you have to air them up to around 32psi as the tires warm up the pressure increases, your tires could actually be running at 40psi.
     
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    LinuxLover Ba-nan-nah-nuh

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    What type of pressure gauge are you using? Those pencil-type can be off by as much as 10# from each other ---- outa the same box.

    I only trust a digital unit I recently bought to replace another digital unit that I lost a while back.

    I set tires to the 1/10th of a lb and can do so religiously, every time.
     
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    I was trained by my elders to squeeze out the last drop of oil out of a container before discarding and the same with tires and brakes. Run the tires till near slick and brakes till you are metal on metal.

    My elders were wise on some things but I’ve learned better than to push tires and brakes too far, though I still probably go farther than I really should.
     
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    Tires are the most important part of your vehicle.
     
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    Always check and adjust tire pressures cold. Don't even let the sun shine on one side of the car before checking.

    Pressures will change about 1 PSI for each 10 degrees of temp change. Don't readjust them after driving them.
     
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    Wake_jumper Don't Jump!

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    This is the best information on tires EVER. Thank you! :number1:

    I am happy to hear that you don't rotate... I don't usually rotate either. I rotate my winter and summer tires on my truck when I switch them, But only on the same side (they have directional tread). I remember when radial tires were new, all manufacturers recommended rotating ONLY front to rear on the same side. I have always wondered when they decided that a cross rotation was OK again ( I think that was always the normal rotation with bias ply tires).

    And, I'm glad to hear your take on Michelin's. I have owned two sets and was not impressed. I didn't have any problems, just didn't think they were worth the money.

    Oh, and one other thing, what the heck has happened to the price of tires! $200.00 is now the norm. That's easily 2x what they cost just a few years ago. I thought that when the price of oil dropped, the price of tires would too, but they went up?! :steamed:
     
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    I've never rotated tires in my life on any vehicle I've owned. I can't on three of the cars I own anyway (staggered sizes) but have never seen the need to do it.
     
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    I'd put brakes first, but both are critical.

    In this day and age, few will ever experience brake failure. But over decades of driving I've had brake failure three times, and one blowout. The blow out was back in the days of recaps on bias ply tires. I was poor in those days.

    Two of the brake failures were with the old single master cylinders, which means total brake failure, except for the so called 'emergency' brake. The blow out was at 70 MPH, but I had no trouble controlling the vehicle. Total brake failure will really get your attention FAST.
     
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    My take on them, exactly ! .. :thumbsup:
     
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    I have had 5 high speed (lotsa adrenaline ! :wow: ) blowouts all old Firestones (Firestone 500, Wide Ovals, 721s ) So Firestones are banned now from my fleet, but in the day they were OEM on Fords so I was running a lot of them ..

    As to brake failure, I blew the diaphragm in the booster on my 5000# 65 T-bird ... Was exciting until I figured out I went from car brakes to poor truck brakes, but it wasn't NO brakes ... :wow:
     
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    What has that got to do with a tire pressure going up as the tire warms up?
     
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    That tire looks old and dry rotted to start with,,, you should not have even left with that tire on that trailer.
     
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    Last minute trip. But you're definitely right...
     
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    LinuxLover Ba-nan-nah-nuh

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    An F78-15? Do you know how old that tire is?
     
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    LinuxLover Ba-nan-nah-nuh

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    ANYtime you measure the pressure - cold --- hot -- or in between - they can always be equalized.

    Besides, tire pressures are usually rated in cold temperatures unless it states differently on the sidewall.
     
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