Cuban Trade Embargo

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  1. slick64

    slick64

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    I can't for the life of me figure out why its still going on? What did it accomplish over all this time?
     
  2. DR. HOUSE

    DR. HOUSE Everybody Lies

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    Just boycotting Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crisis basically.
     

  3. uhlawpup

    uhlawpup Gentle Soul

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    Well, for one thing, it turned Havana into one of the finest rolling museums for mid-20th century automobiles in existence.

    I can't wait for trade restrictions to be lifted so I can visit there and see those old bangers before they are gone for good!
     
  4. MARKDANIEL

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    It has kept a lot of fine cigars out of the U.S.A.
     
  5. DaGroaner

    DaGroaner Anti-Socialist

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    It has prevented US from aiding the murdering commie regime murder it's citizens.
     
  6. Steel Head

    Steel Head Tactical Cat

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    :whistling: PUFF PUFF:wavey:
    I'll venture to say Cuban overall Quality(as far as cigars) has suffered and the other Countries cigars have REALLY taken up the slack well-----BUT-when you get a GOOD Cuban----------- WOW:wow:
    As a base for my opinion I smoke about 300 cigars a year and maybe 75 are AHEM:whistling:

    Also My KANADA KOMRADES tell me CUBA is AWESOME for vacations

    I see it as punishment for not following US policy direction and nationalizing a lot of BIG MONEY US investments-That it is still in effect is CHILDISH on our part
    I would like to see it changed
     
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  7. CigarGuy

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    <looking quickly, both ways> I know not of what you mean about this cigar thing? :wink:
    Agree with the OP though. I guess, initially, it made sense. But, after 47 freakin' years? Shoot, we have "relations" with Vietnam, for goodness sakes!
    Oh, Tampa would be THE port for cruises to Havana........
     
  8. Rooster Rugburn

    Rooster Rugburn Got Pignose?

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    Think back to the 2000 elections, Gomer W. Bush vs Algore. Algore loses his home state of TN and the election hinges on Florida. Florida has 27 (?) electoral votes, and is a key state in any national election.

    Florida is home to around half million Cuban ex-pats who HATE Castro. They live to hate Castro. Those Cuban votes can push Florida's electoral votes either way. Neither party, or any candidate, has the courage or integrity to end the embargo.

    We trade with Vietnam, Russia and China. But we maintain an embargo against Cuba. Only a fool think it makes sense. Some people are still fighting the cold war.


    The embargo hurts the little guy the most.
     
  9. mhambi

    mhambi κολασμένος

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    Nice try, Fidel.



    :rofl:




    :shrug: can't really figure it out either.
     
  10. yellolab

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    I know a guy whose neighbor's brother has a cousin who goes to school with someone whose father gets Cubans from Australia and Gilbralter.

    Kevin
     
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    Oh, absolutely. The RePubs are the one's that cow-towed to the ex-pats.
    JEB, G-d love him, was on the wrong side of that debate too, but needed to carry Miami-Dade. I think that is changing with the newer generation. At least that's what I've been told.
     
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    So he gets his cigars from either Lisa or Wal, and from the Girls aka the Rock. Copy that. :whistling:
     
  13. slick64

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    Back in the day it was for good reason, its just dumb that we haven't resolved it yet, unless someone wants to keep GITMO around.
     
  14. Norske

    Norske Millennium Member

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    I suspect that Fidel had JFK knocked off in retaliation for the botched CIA attempts on Fidel's life.

    That the US.Gov knows it, is afraid to admit it, and keeps the embargo in place so long as Fidel lives to "save face".

    Once Fidel is finally pushing up daisies, the embargo will probably be lifted.
     
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  15. RioKid

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    This might clarify some of the confusion.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba

    United States embargo against Cuba

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    The United States embargo against Cuba (described in Cuba as el bloqueo, Spanish for "the blockade") is a commercial, economic, and financial embargo partially imposed on Cuba in October 1960. It was enacted after Cuba expropriated the properties of United States citizens and corporations and it was strengthened to a near-total embargo in February 1962.
    Entitled the Cuban Democracy Act, the embargo was codified into law in 1992 with the stated purpose of maintaining sanctions on the Castro regime so long as it continues to refuse to move toward "democratization and greater respect for human rights".[1] In 1996, Congress passed the Helms-Burton Act, which further restricted United States citizens from doing business in or with Cuba, and mandated restrictions on giving public or private assistance to any successor regime in Havana unless and until certain claims against the Cuban government are met. In 1999, U.S. President Bill Clinton expanded the trade embargo even further by ending the practice of foreign subsidiaries of U.S. companies trading with Cuba. In 2000, Clinton authorized the sale of certain "humanitarian" US products to Cuba.
    It has been advocated that the pro-embargo Cuban-American exiles, whose votes are crucial in Florida, have swayed many politicians to also adopt similar views.[2] The Cuban-American views have been opposed by business leaders whose financial interests prompt them to argue that trading freely would be good for Cuba and the United States.[3]
    At present, the embargo, which limits American businesses from conducting business with Cuban interests, is still in effect and is the most enduring trade embargo in modern history. Despite the existence of the embargo, the United States is the fifth largest exporter to Cuba (6.6% of Cuba's imports are from the US).[4] However, Cuba must pay cash for all imports, as credit is not allowed.[5]
     
  16. Marc1956

    Marc1956 CLM #66

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    And you said you wouldn't tell if I gave you a few.... Sheesh...
     
  17. douggmc

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    You mean like we do with China?

    ... or even worse ... the half dozen or so theocratic dictatorships we deal with just fine in the middle east?
     
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    ditto on all accounts.

    To show how hypocrtic we are,

    China has the same political prisoners and rights violations x a factor of 200 more than Cuba and look at home much restrictions we place on them.

    :dunno:

    All it does and have done for the last 40 years is show just how stupid we are. Real people are dying need helps, need money, goods and so on. Castro brothers is really just laughing at us in the end and trading with others.


    in the end Chavez and Fidel both looks like he victim in it all.
     
  19. douggmc

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    I'd almost rather be consistent the other way ... and treat them all the same and not deal with ANY of them ... as unrealistic as I know it is.

    Oh .. and Russia? At least on paper they aren't communist anymore.
     
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    All governments murder. The US is not exempt.