I am one of many in search of a holster. Obviously these two are what everyone has been using as you read the threads. However, I haven't read about anyone commenting on how comfortable they are while driving or riding in a vehicle. I have a G23 that I purchased in February and welcome any input in this matter. I have been carrying a Taurus 650 CIA with a Bianchi AccuMold which rides close to the body and I hardly know that it is there.