Got a crazy question...maybe. Some background...while talking with a prepper buddy on mine the discussion came up about firearms (imagine that) and the availability of parts, ammo, etc. Something he mentioned got me thinking...he has a Glock 23 and a 1911 with different uppers for the Glock...9mm and 22. His #1 reasoning for these two guns...as you know parts can be swapped across the board with each model and parts are plentiful or will be. His #2 reason...if the SHTF these 4 caliber will be more plentiful than others, so...I'm not a Glock guy...stupid questions to follow...can you shoot 9mm through a G23 with just the top end swap? Can it be done in the opposite direction...G17/19 would you be able to shoot 40S&W with a top end swap?
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Should be able to. With a .40 platform, all you need is a barrel swap and 9mm mags. Or you could add a 357Sig barrel and use the .40 mags. The reason the 17/19 would need a new slide, is that .40 won't fit in the small 9mm breech face.
My G23 handles 9mm, .40 and .357Sig
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My G23 too. 2 Extra barrels, and some 9mm mags are really easy to carry.
get one of these:
http://mechtechsys.com/glock-carbine-conversion/
and you won't need an AR-15 either!
get one of these:
http://mechtechsys.com/glock-carbine-conversion/
and you won't need an AR-15 either!
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Dropping a 9mm barrel into a .40 slide is doable (and might be reliable) in a pinch, but it's not optimal. The barrel hood extension is a different width, and I believe that the OD is also slightly different. I think that the ejectors are different between 9mm and .40 as well.
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I wouldn't give up the AR just yet. A 147gr. 9mm sighted in at 50 yards will drop almost a foot at 100 yards and about 14.5 FEET at 300 yards. You'll need a flatter caliber like .223 if you want to reach out with your shots.
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Twice I have put a KKM 9mm conversion in a gen3 23. Both functioned perfectly with just a barrel and 9mm magazines.
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I once put a LW conversion into a gen3 35. Even with correct mags, springs, ejector, extractor, or whatever else I tried to get it to work, it wouldn't go a full mag without having at least one failure. Soured me on both conversion barrels and Lone Wolf stuff. (The ridiculous looking logo burned into the barrel hood didn't help much either in that regard.)
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I would think in a true SHTF scenario, like say Hillary gets elected, the ammo that you always see sitting on the shelf at Walmart during each drought, in that yellowing bent corner box, is the caliber you want to focus on for a SHTF scenario. Maybe a caliber nobody else has a gun for? I'm just sayin'... :whistling:
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I believe what we have experienced in the past will seem tame to the next emotional responses to Hillary or anything anti-gun. The speculators who are waiting with cash in hand will buy out inventory and sell at greater profits. For those preparing, ammunition will still be an issue. For those reloaders components will still be an issue. If you have not prepared for the next emotional roller coaster, Good Luck.
Ps I believe any caliber will be bought for further profit, too many people verbalizing the same philosophy and thought process, you will not see product on the shelves.
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You might be right, then again, pretty much everyone I know who reloads in any volume are sporting very large inventories. Past experience seems to have taught everyone I know that shelves can be empty for far longer than they ever dreamed. Believe me, as a guy who just moved, just the stuff the movers wouldn't move was a lot to move (powders and primers). Watching those kids lug all those boxes of bullets, all those 5gal buckets of brass, ample stock is a heavy problem. Even with all that stuff, I found myself placing a really big order with Powder Valley, just last week..
I will grant you that a rush appears to be starting again. I was in a local gun store picking up a pound of a couple of powders I had never loaded before for a caliber I just started loading. This store carries a very large selection of powders and a large inventory of each for such a small store. As I was reaching up for the two new products I needed, I noticed their Bullseye stock was empty. I was surprised as I had been in a few days earlier looking for a Dillon caliber conversion for 380 Auto (my new caliber) and the Bullseye shelf had been full. I asked the guy what happened to all the Bullseye and he said a lady had come in and bought out all they had. These were at pretty steep prices over what someone would pay in volume online, so yes, it may be starting again. CCI small primers seem to be MIA again, most popular Alliant handgun caliber powders are pretty much gone, etc. How bad the next wave gets is anyone's guess.
Who knows, maybe even 40S&W won't be dead after all.....
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I've been reloading for close to 50 years and shooting pistol as long. I've got two Dillon 650's enough components to load 35k 9mm and another 2k 44 mag. The last episode several years ago left many flat footed in procurement of components.
Walmart had lines every morning of their allocated shipment of ammunition. With 10 million new gun owners I suspect more impact, .40 S&W
and any other pistol caliber will be consumed. I suspect tonight's debate might prompt more consumption.
Walmart had lines every morning of their allocated shipment of ammunition. With 10 million new gun owners I suspect more impact, .40 S&W
and any other pistol caliber will be consumed. I suspect tonight's debate might prompt more consumption.
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I fail to understand the worries about ammo and a SHTF scenario. Keep in mind how much folks spend on a quality handgun and rifle. Usually for half that they could have a very good stash of ammo. For an equal amount (if they truly worry about ammo shortages) they would have enough extra for plenty of bartering even.
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so if I had a Glock in 40 Caliber, all I would have to do to convert it to 9mm was just a barrel? What about the extractor?
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Yes. No need to change the extractor. Personally I also use 9mm magazines.
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The key here is "conversion barrel". I wouldn't just stick a Glock 19 barrel in a Glock 23 and trust it to work.
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For those not supplied can I comment. I myself have no need to visit a fire, I have seen nothing so far as fear projected.
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I believe the logic is to own the handguns, post pictures, and shoot them infrequently. Realizing that running down to the store to get a box of ammo and finding someone else has bought the last box frustrates. Over reaction starts the chain and emotion sets in. There are those that speculate, and take advantage of this logic and practice.
The new firearm owner seems to spend the money on acquiring the weapon (with one or two boxes of shells). Additional ammo and mags seem to be secondary or an after thought.
I guess look at the threads about conversions, many want to be able to shoot 40 as well because THEY feel it will be on the shelf. Spending money on the conversion but not the ammo.
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