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Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by TBO, Feb 24, 2020.
It's just Meth man....
I don't know?t why don't you tell.. yes I'm aware of the differences between Europe and here.
But it's not enough to say there are differences, you need to explain how that justifies the implication that approaches to abuse that have proven to work elsewhere would not work here...
All you can say is "different culture", but you cant say one definable aspect of difference and how it relates to why we are required to keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
"Explain what you mean by that, and why it's applicable to this issue"
"You're ignorant or a troll!, PS Bernie sux!!...
Either you really haven't thought this through, or your embarrassed to explain yourself further..
I have a question.
If a child, or anyone else gets stuck with a needle that was handed out by the state, should the state be held responsible?
I say yes.
Crack pipes?!? GTFOH! Seriously?
Substance dependence is a real problem but this is not the direction we should be heading.
No, I think the individual lawmakers who proposed and passed the legislation should. Sadly, they likely have immunity from consequences for their moronic ideas despite the harm they cause. In a just world, they'd be sued into oblivion.
I hope they give out condoms in those harm reduction kits to prevent the drug addicts from reproducing.
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You know it's illegal to own firearms and do drugs. You should turn yours in voluntarily. You have a screw loose.
"If you want something to shrink, tax it.
If you want something to expand, subsidize it."
Ah... Now we're at the accusations and insults part of the party..
All you have to do is explain what aspect of the cultural differences between Europe and America mean that their approach to drug abuse won't work here.
That's all you have to do, but you cant.
Your bluff got called, and ya got nothing..
When the going gets tough, the weak get childish....
Like I said you don't know what you don't know. It's hard to argue with the ignorant. Carry on Bernie bro the champion of drug abusers. And F Europe.
Really... So that's what you are going with you "don't know what I don't know" so you can't speak on the subject..
Ok then... Name one, just one "cultural difference"... That would prevent a different approach from working...
If you can't do that, I suggest not accusing other people of being ignorant..
I've asked you to do that, and you can't..and now you've resorted to calling me a drug addict, and throwing out the f word at Bernie sanders, and a continent..
You debate like a child... Or an adult who hasn't really thought through what he is talking about.
I could give a **** about the diseases that addicts pass among themselves. Having retired from a jurisdiction that had an exchange program, the only result I saw was an increase in needles that were a potential threat to me
Heroin use comes with certain health risks. It's an illegal activity and the government should not be in the business of making illegal acts safer or easier to accomplish. Truthfully, those who participate in such things should be prosecuted for each and every overdose that occurs, when the addict is found to have used paraphernalia provided by the government.
We hold bartenders criminally and civilly liable for serving people "too much" alcohol, but facilitate and encourage felony drug use by providing everything but the drug....in Louisville, the needle exchange gives you needles, tourniquets, and the auto-inject naloxone. I got issued the cheap nasal version....
Addiction may or may not be a disease, but I've never met a single person that woke up with a crack problem or needing a heroin fix if they never used in the first place. Addicts make a conscious decision to use drugs. They have to make the same conscious decision to stop.
If you want money for legit treatment centers, I'll happily support those. My last 6.5 years at work saw me fully involved in the heroin plague that swept my city and state. I dealt with addicts every single day and saw more than one die from an overdose while on house arrest under my supervision. Treatment combined witha motivation to get clean is the best thing for an addict. Facilitating their intake of a poison is horrible.
Oh, and as one of my coworkers said - the heroin will kill them long before HIV, AIDS, or hepatitis.
Yay socialism. Yay drugs. Yay arguing with socialist indocrtinated Bernie bot trolls.
Did the folks in jumpsuits change since I left? Cause I don't recall a lot of them being smart enough to do that.
I wouldn't call what you are doing as 'arguing' since you are still batting .000 on any explanation of how "different cultures!" applies to the topic...
Argument/debate implies an exchange of ideas, and you don't appear to have any and have resorted to toddler mode...
Sigh. Phoenix has a larger population that Switzerland.
bye bye Bernie bro who registered last may. At least in December you will crawl back to du and gnash your teeth for another 4
I hate arguing with dumb people.
The Swiss when they started the program had about 28k drug users. Yeah it worked. The us has 30 million. We are a consumption nation. We like our drugs and alcohol. different cultures.PPeople aren't going to come in off the streets to get pure clean **** the get put in rehab. They are going to continue buying from their dealers and using dirty needles. They don't care.
That you cannot see that means you live in socilalist fairy tale land. But I'm sure your college professor taught you well.
It also has more mountains than Kansas. That isn't an explanation why the approach they have taken would not have the same benefits here.
You tried, an attempt was made, I grant you that, but I'm holding back your participation trophy
Bernie bros unite. Preach socialism. Act smarter. Get mad in November. Lol
Is the question, why they took their kit in the first place then? Couldn't they just return their kit with their other stuff?
It worked in small town Texas it must work in new York City right?
No culture differences. Yay socialism
Ignorant liberals and their ignorant policies.