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Computer shut down during XP reinstal. Now what?

Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by Angel Of Death, Jun 2, 2006.

  1. Angel Of Death

    Angel Of Death Wrenches/BMWs

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    Hey guys, I hope you can help me, or point me in the right direction with this one.

    My computer has been randomly !@#$ing-the-bed lately.

    I'll be surfing the 'net or something, and then I'll lose signal to my monitor. The computer will still continue to make all the buzzing and fan noises it did prior to the shutdown.

    I tried to reinstall Window XP MCE and it shut down in the middle of the format!!!!

    I gave it 20 minutes and tried it again. It formatted the whole thing (two 80gig seagats, RAID-Zero'd together). And then shut down again while it was copying files.

    Now every time I reset it it just says:

    I'm so insanely furious at my crappy computer right now I'm contemplating buying a laptop and being done with this homeade desktop. But I have so much money into it!!!

    I built it in the fall of '04 and this is what it has:

    ASUS MB (top of the line at the time)
    1 gig Balistix RAM (2 512 sticks) cost me almost $500!
    3.4 Gig P4
    (2) Seagate 80 gig SATAs, RAID-Zero'd together
    Windows XP MCE
    Saphire X600 128mb video card

    Please please please someone help me!!!

    I'm stuck in Bolivia and don't speak any Spanish. If you guys could help me I would greatly greatly appreciate!

    Thanks so much,

    Semper fi

    Erik
     
  2. grokdesigns

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    I would check the power supply.
     

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    Followed by the video card.
     
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  5. Angel Of Death

    Angel Of Death Wrenches/BMWs

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    Since I didn't have the expertise, money or spare parts to play around with my 400w power supply or my x600 I read up on that link.

    I followed the advice it gave and set my DVDrom drive as my primarty boot device.

    That got me back in to the XP MCE disk, where I did my thing and set it for a slow format, but that went really fast and it told me it couldn't format it. Strange.

    I tried to delete the partition, no go also.

    So I reset it and tried again and the slow format (as opposed to quick format, sorry) and it's going pretty slow, good sign.

    We'll see what happens from here. Thanks everyone so far!

    I'll check back in.

    Semper fi

    Erik
     
  6. Angel Of Death

    Angel Of Death Wrenches/BMWs

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    Well, she finally installed XP no problems!

    She hasn't reset in over two hours, so I can only assume it was software related, and I have 90% of my programs back on her!

    Thanks guys!

    Erik
     
  7. Angel Of Death

    Angel Of Death Wrenches/BMWs

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    SON OF A DIRTY WHORE! @*#$^@#*$^*#^( me!!!!

    As soon as I posted that above, all the symptoms returned.

    It froze on me, and when I reset it manually (held power button in, waited, let off, hit hit again) it gave me nothing. It hummed and buzzed but my monitor stayed in orange-LED sleep mode.

    If I give it 20 or 30 minutes, it will fire right up I know it, and then die on me again.

    Since I'm here in Bolivia, and hate waiting, should I just log onto NewEgg and order a new power supply and video card? Just to be sure?

    Thanks guys, Erik
     
  8. Tom34

    Tom34 Obama Must Go!

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    How disconnecting everything (one plug at a time) and reseating the video card ?
     
  9. HAVOC

    HAVOC Remember CLM Millennium Member

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    Sounds like heat to me. All your fans running? All your heatsinks capable of passing air? What kind of thermal compound you have on the cpu/heatsink junction? How long has it been there? What temp is the room you're in?
     
  10. Angel Of Death

    Angel Of Death Wrenches/BMWs

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    I used the factory heat sink and fan/thermal compound that came with the proccessor. It's been there since fall of '04.

    I think it might have been heat because the problem got a little better after I punched out the plastic things that were there incase I wanted to add another DVD drive (three of them). After that it sucked a ton of air through that hole.

    All my fans turn when it's on.

    The side has been off the computer for a couple days now, so everything is fully exposed.

    I'm at such a loss.
     
  11. Angel Of Death

    Angel Of Death Wrenches/BMWs

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    OK, say I suck it up and buy a new video card and power supply. I can do so from new egg for less than $125 which isn't too shabby.

    Now, I have a full size case, it's big. I need an ATX power supply right?

    Do I need a special power supply for the PCI-Express16 card? I vaguely remember something about that.

    See, I didn't build this computer. I just drank my beer and looked over the shoulder of the guy who did. I'm running on fumes here guys, you gotta help me!

    Thanks a bunch, Erik
     
  12. Angel Of Death

    Angel Of Death Wrenches/BMWs

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    So your comment about the heatsink and thermal compund got my gears turning and I remembered I had this: (pictured below).

    I bought in on NE with all my other componants but the guy assembling it told me to use the factory Intel heatsink/fan for warnanty purposes, and thus this thing's been collecting dust forever.

    I'm going to install it now, wish me luck! Erik

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Angel Of Death

    Angel Of Death Wrenches/BMWs

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    Let's hope that if it's the actual CPU heating up too much, this bad mofo will help keep it cool!

    [​IMG]
     
  14. Angel Of Death

    Angel Of Death Wrenches/BMWs

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    That LGA775 chipest is a breeze to work on!

    Let's hope this does it!!

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Angel Of Death

    Angel Of Death Wrenches/BMWs

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    Well, now it gets to the windows screen and shuts down 100%.

    I'm thinking power supply, as stated earlier.

    It's got an Antec SL400 400w power supply right now.

    I wonder if my spreeze CPU cooler draws too much power from a very week power supply?

    Any ideas guys?

    ETA: just bid on the exact same Antec power supply on ebay. Ends in 3 hours. They're expensive!
     
  16. Angel Of Death

    Angel Of Death Wrenches/BMWs

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    I noticed one of my case fans in the back wasn't turning as fast as the other, so I replaced it with an antec factory 80mm I had lying around.

    The original was plugged into the MB for power.

    I piggybacked the new on ontop of the other rear case fan.

    That bought me 4 mintues of using my computer before it shut off on its own.

    I wonder if it was a coincedence, or that just gave more credability to my need for a new power supply.

    Confused, Erik
     
  17. Angel Of Death

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    Cool!

    I got to thinking about the power issues I might be having....

    So I unplugged my pair fo USB2.0 microhubs I had plugged in.

    I guess that freed up enough power to run my computer normally. It's been going strong for 21 minutes and counting.

    Does anyone think that makes any sense?

    16 minutes left on the power supply auction, I'm still going to buy it and swap it in.

    Thoughts?

    Erik
     
  18. Angel Of Death

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    damn, doing it again. the freezing, and the not restarting at all
     
  19. Angel Of Death

    Angel Of Death Wrenches/BMWs

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    So the power supply is on it's way.

    I just ordered a Saphire X550 256mb PCIE16 card from new egg, $55.

    I hope this does it!!!

    [​IMG]
     
  20. HVAC-TEK

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    It sounds like a BIOS issue. You seemed to be saying that the computer was freezing and restarting sometimes before the Operating system is even booted. The Bios is designed to do this in order to protect the major components. Usually bios shutdowns are caused by mad memory, or heat issues.

    Have you made any changes in your BIOS settings?
    Added any memory sticks within the last few months?
    Over clocked anything?

    First thing I would do is try the default settings for your BIOS. That’s the easiest fix we have. It may simply be a corrupted setting confusing the motherboard and causing a shutdown error.

    Second, if that doesn’t help, remove all but one stick of memory and every card except video. The Idea here is to reinstall each component one piece at a time, and seeing witch part causes the crash.


    On a side note. A few things that you mentioned make me wonder about your hard drive. The difficulty installing the OS, and the inability to find the NTldr file. Your hard drive may be going bad. It is the only moving part in your computer. Do you have a spare drive you can toss in there to test out? Has to be a blank drive, or one you can install over.

    The Key is when it shuts down. If it ever shuts down BEFORE windows runs, then it’s the bios ordering the shutdown. If it never shutdown until after windows takes over, it’s most likely the hard drive.

    There is a setting in XP that can help clear this up.
    Click START. Right click MY COMPUTER, then PROPERTIES, then ADVANCED, then in the STARTUP and RECOVERY area, click SETTINGS, and uncheck the RESTART box.

    What this does is tells windows not to restart the computer if a serious error occurs. What WILL happen is the computer will error message and lock up. But now you can read the error.

    By the way, have you checked your event logs in the event viewer?

    KIM