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Colt, Kimber or Springer, what to get

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by DukeNukem, Jul 18, 2010.

  1. DukeNukem

    DukeNukem

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    Hey all. I'm considering getting myself a 1911 and I was looking around here and at the various mfr sites. Looked at Colt and was surprised to see they are now making a bigger selection of pistols. They even have the Delta Elite 10mm again. That said, they have a series called xse that looks like they're trying to be like Kimber and Springfield. Any opinions on the new colts? I guess I've always wanted a Kimber but it seems like their prices have gone up considerably from last time I looked. I'm not looking to spend the money for a custom. I want a full size model mostly for range and maybe some IDPA style shooting, not so much for carry.
     
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    mrsurfboard The Anti-Glock

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    The Kimber pro carry models (4in commander style) start around $888 MSRP. Not that outrageous for a good 1911. Springfields are a little cheaper if you are looking for a 5in model.

    http://www.kimberamerica.com/products/pistols/compactprocarry/pro_carry_II/

    http://www.kimberamerica.com/products/pistols/custom/custom_II/
     
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  3. zhix

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    I am a sucker for Colts;have the delta elite and 1918 repro, one is unfired at the moment and the other I shoot rarely. It seems to me like all the colt models are in the same price range ($875ish). Kimbers I believe go up literally every year; I have an Ultra carry, but I will probably sell it off after getting a 4" Kimber. I have no experience with Springfields mainly because I don't like guns that say made in Brazil on them, though they are said to be great guns.

    In my non-expert opinion a Kimber Custom II would be a good one for you to start with in the range of $700-$735. I say start with because you'll probably end up with several 1911s eventually.
     
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    A Kimber Custom II is a great model to fill your needs. I recently bought this one (LNIB) for $620 shipped. The price tag that was in the case was marked $739.

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  5. Hokie1911

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    What is your price range? I would look at the STI Spartan or the Kimber Custom2 that JRS mentioned in the $700ish range. Perhaps spend a few hundred more and get the STI Trojan. All great guns.
     
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    faawrenchbndr DirtyThirty fan CLM

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    The Kimber Custom II is a VERY good deal for the money!
     
  7. DRAGON1970

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    Stay away from the Colts. After 20 years of competition I have yet to see a Colt shoot worth a darn. I have been refinishing Firearms for roughly 10 years and every Colt I have worked on is as loose and sloppy as an old lady's teeth.
     
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    As much as i wanna tell you not to spend extra money bc of a brand name, i do it myself. All 3 are nice. I tend to favor springfields but have always wanted a colt. Kimbers are nice too, just not as high up on my list.
     
  9. brzusa.1911

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    It depends on many things, money you want to spend being the most important. For a first 1911 for carry, $1150 you can get a Dan Wesson Heritage which beats the others hands down on reliability out of the box. You can aslo get a Colt series 70 for a little less than that (that would be my choice). If you ate looking for something under $900 I would go with the Springfields. I personally stay away from Kimbers, never had experience with one but read a lot about them. Another thing to consider is that SA and Colt will give you lifetime warranty. I hear SA customer service is the best, so if you have a SA that is not running 100% out of the box they will make it right to you on ther dime.
     
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    mrsurfboard The Anti-Glock

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    For every negative thing I've read about Kimbers, I've read 5 others praising them. Don't pan a gun you don't own and/or have never fired.
     
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    +1. I think we covered this in his "1911 snob" thread.
     
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    You are correct. I should've not said that! I tried to give the OP my personal opinion, but should've reworded a little better. The same bad reviews you would read from a Kimber, you would read from Colts and Springfields as well, but there will be more positive then negative for sure. I never shot a Kimber, have held many at gunshops and admit they feel great to carry, still I am a little reluctant about buying one, unless it is one of the new ProCarry series.
     
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    Just know that between them, Bac and JRS have 100+ 1911s, from low-end to high dollar customs. Both of them could carry anything they want....both carry Kimber Pros.
     
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    I actually meant to say the new SuperCarry.

    p.s. I know Bac carries the ProCarry, amongst all sorts of 1911s he currently owns. He does that because he likes the gun and trusts it's ability to protect him. Maybe I would change my mind if I got to shoot one. I am not a collector so I buy the ones that I like the best and fit the features I am looking for at a price I am willing to pay.

    Just for the record, I am also not a big fan of Colts, especially the XSE ones (I owned one). But I would like to have a series 70 or a Delta Elite one day and send it off to a good gunsmith for some upgrades. My personal opinion today is that for the less than $1000 market the Springfields ate the way to go, last year I would've told you the Dan Wessons were.
     
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  15. bac1023

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    What's your exact price range?

    Below $1000, I like Kimber the best out of the three.






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    I got a chance to fondle a new SuperCarry Pro last month. Felt pretty good in hand. Although, for the asking price of $1,299....I'd either pick up a CBOB for a little less (they are out there if you look hard enough) or I'd spend a few hundy more and get a Valor Bobtail.
     
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    I actually carry a Pro CDP :)
     
  18. brzusa.1911

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    Hey Bac, I am interested on your review of why? I know you have all the ones the OP is consedering and maybe you can give an insight comparison from your perspective. As I said, I never considered a Kimber, but I am always willing to learn and change my view.
     
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    I agree with you on the supercarry and cbob.
     
  20. DukeNukem

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    I would like to stay under $1k. I've always had a thing for the Kimber 1911s. I keep looking on and off at them and usually end up getting something else for the money it takes to get one, but last time I looked it seems you could get a Kimber around 800 and now most of them seem to be up around 1100 or so. Last time I looked I wound up getting an AR instead. Now I'm going back and forth between the 1911, M1 or 44 mag revolver. I do see the Springfields and new Colts going more around the 800 dollar range for what I want. I know Springfield has a good name but the whole Made in Brazil kind of bums me out too.

    I'm mostly looking at either a Custom 2 TLE package, Eclipse model, the National Match Loaded or the Colt Goldcup or XSE stainless.