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Colt Commander.

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by Teecher45, Jan 8, 2011.

  1. Teecher45

    Teecher45

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    I'll try to make this as short as possible. Thursday my father called me and asked me to go to the range (we own a range on the farm) and see if the truck that just went by his house was a member. He didn't recognize the truck. I tucked away the G26 and headed down. Jump ahead, older member, new truck. As we got to talking I found out Santa brought him a new Colt Commander (that he had been carrying concealed since Christmas without firing) he starting complaining about it being too heavy/big for CC. His first shot failed to eject on mil surp 230 fmj. He is now spitting mad because of the bulk and the fte. He then finished the mag with no further problems. Then he says "I should have just got a 26". I had laid mine on the table while looking at the Colt.
    Long story short I am the proud owner of a commander. I have only fired 22 rounds through it and have had no failures with the Cor-Bons (165gr) and Remingtons (230) but did have another fte with some 230 ball (using the other mag. Isn't this the opposite of how it is supposed to be? I know nothing about a 1911 except I love the way they feel in my hand.
    A friend of mine suggested that it could have something to do with the fact the ejection port is not lowered, flared (?) or something like that.
    I don't have enough premium ammo for further testing. I saved enough 165's to keep a loaded gun and extra mag. Suggestions?
     
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  2. ArmoryDoc

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    It could be that mag. If all your failures can be attributed to that mag, get rid of it. Mark them so you'll know which is which. Use plenty of oil on the rails until about 500 rounds, then back off.
     
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  3. Teecher45

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    The second fte was with the other mag. He only had the two that come with it.
     
  4. Harvick

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    I have one too.... the tension on the extractor is critical without a lowered ejection port. Check it.
     
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    I am guessing ammo for now---Stick to what is working for the break in period and then venture on to other ammo. If the gun is new and tight it may need full power ammo to run until it loosens up.
     
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    you are the big big winner. nothing like that ever happens to me. congrats.
     
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    Outstanding turn of fortune in your favor! The guys above have provided good advice...lubricate well and use heavier ammo to break her in. Congrats on your new acquisition!
     
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    Co-Worker has a Commander and complained about the FTE on the initial runs as well. He said for the first 100 rounds he was just using whatever he had around the house and thinks the majority were due to weak ammo. But after he's had for about 2 years and put probably more rounds through it than I have through my service weapon, he never complains about it. I see him carrying it all the time and he tells me he never leaves home without it, and even carries it as a back up while on duty. How he keeps that thing concealed in a shoulder holster under his uniform I don't know. You'd never know it was there either.
     
  9. Jim S.

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    First thing I think is that Dad made a serious mistake carrying a gun that he has never fired before.
    Second thing is that many 1911's need to be fired a bit before they loosen up and make everything smooth.
    Third thing is that 1911's need good ammunition which requires the owner to be patient and shoot a few good quality brands before deciding on what to carry.
    Fourth he made a mistake trading his Commander for your Glock.
    At least it is still in the family.
     
  10. Teecher45

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    I have stated before, I know next to nothing about a 1911, I would have no idea how to check the tension on the extractor. If it something not real complicated I'm very willing to learn. Honestly, I don't have the funds to shoot a lot of any type of ammo, especially the high end stuff. I can probably squeeze out a cheap box a month, max.
    It wasn't my father, he would know better, it was a member that I know a little. We discussed his error.
    I'm not any type of armorer, but my job has given me the opportunity to work on Glocks, Smith revolvers and pistols, Ruger mini's, and Remington 870's and have learned them very well. I am an instructor, but mostly deal with corrections.
    I would give anything to have the opportunity to learn the 1911 platform, just don't know anyone around here to learn from.
     
  11. TN.Frank

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    It's a good idea to sit with the empty gun while you're watchin' TV and just work the slide back and forth. That'll help the parts seat in a bit more without actually shooting the gun. Of course nothing beats shooting since it'll help seat in all the parts and you'll also get use to the gun too.
    I always polish up the feed ramp and throat and the underside of the slide where it rides the hammer and the hammer on all the 1911a1s I've had, just helps things to run a bit smoother but they'll polish up a bit with shooting too. Mind you, don't remove any metal, just polish em' up so they'll slide against one another easier.
    Anyway, congrats on getting a nice gun.:cool:
     
  12. Teecher45

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    Honestly guys, I really appreciate you trying to help me, but you have to realize I am completely ignorant of things like "Polish up the feed ramp and throat". I have no idea how to do something like that. I'm the kind of guy that you have to draw a picture for me. Anyway, is this really the problem? It has fed fine (so far, fingers crossed). The issue is that the ball ammo is getting stuck in the ejection port, causing a mis-feed.
    My biggest issue is I have a lot more rounds of mil surp 230 ball than I do premium HP's (15 rounds). If I can't use the 230 it really hurts me.
     
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    It will run fine on 230 ball. Just shoot it until it loosens up.
     
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    If the surplus ammo is heavily tarnished, it may be sticking to the camber walls. Clean the chamber, use good ammo, find someone to check the extractor tension or buy a 1911 gunsmithing book at the book store.
     
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    I for one really need a better description of what the failure looks like. It would be easier to suggest some fixes with a better explanation. Thanks.
     
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    I'm trying to upload pics from my iPhone. Can't figure out how to attach them. A little help, please!?
     
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    Okay, let's see if this works.
     
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    Okay, if you can see my thumbnail you can see how the round gets stuck in the ejection port and this causes the hang-up. It only seems to do it with the old mil surp and not with the higher powered stuff. However 22 rounds is hardly a test. It has happened twice and both were on the mil surp stuff. It will do it everytime when I try to eject a round by racking the slide with my hand.
    It seems like the ejection port isn't long enough or the ammo is too long. I know that isn't the problem, just trying to explian the issue. Any help is greatly appreciated. I'm not ready to give-up yet!
     
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