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Colorado background checks up 41%

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by jeanderson, Jul 24, 2012.

  1. jeanderson

    jeanderson Making America great again! Platinum Member

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    Gun sales way up in Colorado...
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/2...orado-reportedly-jump-41-percent-since-movie/

    This is really good. It tells me that people are starting to realize that utlimately, you're responsible for your own safety and that of your family. It's what the 2nd amendment is all about - the right to defend ourselves.

    Of course, the immediate reaction of the liberal or statist is to pass more laws, control guns, hire more cops, make it harder to buy guns or ammo, restrict our individual rights. To them, the state must protect everyone.
     
  2. cowboy1964

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    Nothing wrong with more cops, as long as they can pay for it.
     

  3. countrygun

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    I have to disagree.

    People become too dependent on the security blanket of cops. It breeds the "don't do anything but call the cops" mentality.

    It is a mistake to think that "more cops make you safer". Doesn't really work out that way. People make themselves safe. A person who is alert because they know there isn't a cop around to protect them is in less danger than one who assumes there is a cop around to protect them.

    More cops do not equal a more responsible society (which is what we need) in fact more cops produce the opposite effect just like more Government in general.
     
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  4. Kentak

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    If Aurora had twice as many active duty cops, would the massacre have been prevented? Three times as many? Put the cops wherever you want, the psychos will just choose a venue that's not covered--or take out the cop first.
     
  5. professorpinki

    professorpinki Bumbling idjit

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    That and you can't just make new cops by handing out badges and guns and making people take a polygraph.
     
  6. Woofie

    Woofie Disirregardless CLM

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    And I have to disagree with you. An abundance of cops doesn't make people want to call the cops. It's the movement of our legal system towards criminals' rights and lessening our ability to defend ourselves that causes people to want to call the cops and not deal with thugs.
     
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    This.
     
  8. Gundude

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    Our legal system has moved towards increasing our ability to defend ourselves in the past couple of decades. Shall-issue CCW, stand your ground laws, supreme court rulings. How can that be interpreted as lessening our ability to defend ourselves?
     
  9. Walt_NC

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    I sincerely doubt that more than a handful of those new gun purchases were made by new gun owners looking to protect themselves. I think it's much more likely that the surge in gun sales is due to gun nuts like you and I who know that talks of bans are common after high-profile shootings (Columbine, Virginia Tech, Gabrielle Giffords, etc).
     
  10. JBnTX

    JBnTX 2 Timothy 2:15

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    Fort Worth, Texas does just that.
    And they're an Equal Opportunity Employer too.

    :rofl:
     
  11. Happy Hunting

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    RGR's earnings come out next week. Put your money where your mouth is. I held SWHC for a while and did well after their last earnings report.
     
  12. Kingarthurhk

    Kingarthurhk Isaiah 53:4-9

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    It validates my theory about guns sales and NRA memberships increasing rather than taking a hit over this.
     
  13. GAFinch

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    Look at the knife-based school massacres in China and Japan. Very similar body counts to our gun-based massacres. Japan even started banning large kitchen knives and liberals in Britain keep threatening to. Guy could've used a bomb, a mixture of household chemicals, a pile of chili peppers lit on fire, whatever. A determined, prepared individual can do a lot of damage in any enclosed environment where self-defense weapons are formally or informally prohibited.
     
  14. JFrame

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    A decade or more ago, the D.C. police department made a huge push to ramp up their manpower. Due to lack of vetting, they found that at least 50 percent of the recruits they took in were gang-bangers and other known criminals.

    I imagine they left out the polygraph test -- or just recruited a bunch of sociopathic liars.


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  15. professorpinki

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    Or the polygraph is just a dubious test to begin with...
     
  16. JFrame

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    Well, there's that -- but I suspect in the case of the D.C. police department, vetting never got to that level in the first place.


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  17. Happy Hunting

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    Do you have a link for this? Vetting is vicious cycle... :wavey:
     
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    No -- sorry...It made quite the news splash here at the time it happened. IIRC, as the scandal mounted, the metropolitan police found themselves having to fire more and more recruits for having gang connections.

    It was evidently a result of an ill-advised push by the DC metro PD to swell their ranks quickly. Word quickly got out to the local populace not to talk to the police, because you were just as likely to be talking to a gang member.

    I'll see if I can stumble on some news pieces -- but perhaps someone else can turn something up.


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