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Closing the Private Sale "Loophole"

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by SgtRambo, Dec 27, 2012.

  1. Mayhem like Me

    Mayhem like Me Semper Paratus

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    Under what authority can the federal government regulate a sales transaction that does not cross state lines? Or deal with contraban....

    They will have to label something as controlled ...like machine guns to do this.. pay attention to these proposed laws
     
  2. RussP

    RussP Super Moderator Moderator

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    You skipped over 2bgop's question. What topic and what in your background makes you well versed?
     

  3. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

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    heres another unanswered question...if i may toot my own horn.
     
  4. tcruse

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    I would be in favor of a registry that contained the serial numbers of guns known to be stolen and not recovered, via Internet free anonymous search. After recovery the entry should be removed and no record kept.

    Any law requiring a transfer via FFL dealer should have an exception when the buyer can produce a CCW license. Since, the 2A main purpose is protect the people from the government, the government should not have the information to come and get your guns. So, if we have to give up direct sales between individuals, we should get the restriction on government keeping records of the sale.

    A free anonymous background search should be made available for any seller to use. I think that it is important that the Federal or State government be prohibited from keeping records on gun ownership.
     
  5. M&P15T

    M&P15T Beard One

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    Let's try this again:

    Does anyone here think there will be anti-gun legislation passed?

    C'mon folks, this is not a hard question. Just a simple "Yes" or "No" is all we're looking for.
     
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  6. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

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    THIS SEEMS TO BE WHAT YOURE MADE OUT OF...GIVING UP.:whistling:

    IM WILLING TO READ THE PROTECTION OF OUR GUN RIGHTS WE'VE GOTTEN BEFORE FOR THE GUN RIGHTS WE'VE GIVEN UP. I DONT THINK THERE ARE ANY, BUT YOU SEEM WILLING TO GIVE UP SOMETHING (GUN RIGHTS) NOW ON THE NEVER BEFORE THINKING OF STOPPING THE ASSAULT ON GUN RIGHTS LATER.

    since youre so well versed, what gun rights have we saved by giving up gun rights before?

    what makes you think this time will be different? im listening.
     
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  7. M&P15T

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    Try that again son. It's virtually unintelligible.
     
  8. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

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    thats what i thought youd say....you have no past examples of what you tout would happen later.
     
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  9. RussP

    RussP Super Moderator Moderator

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    You asked that before and admitted...well, here:
    You admitted that no one said there was not going to be legislation.

    You are not going to get a different answer to the same question posed on the same forum and to the same forum participants.

    As I said before, I have read all your posts and the responses to them in all the threads in which you proposed your ideas. I can state that no one has posted that there will be no legislation.

    No one is going to jump onto your band wagon.
     
  10. RussP

    RussP Super Moderator Moderator

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    Those are the questions. They are pretty simple.

    Answers?
     
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  11. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

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  12. M&P15T

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    When did I state there were previous examples?

    I am very aware that it's impossible to stop anti-gunners with compromise. I am very aware that people like Feinstein and her rabid anti-gun supporters would take everything away if they could, I get that.

    Take careful note. I have asked two, very specific questions. And yet not one person responding in this thread has deigned to answer them. I find this very odd. It's as if people are afraid to consider the possibility that anti-gun legislation is going to be passed, as if discussing it will make it happen. Therefore, we can't have a logical discussion on the topic.

    So I'll ask you very directly, and very specifically:

    Do you believe that anti-gun legislation IS going to pass? Do you believe there is no avoiding the passing of some sort of anti-gun legislation?
     
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  13. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

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    edited due to editing.
     
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  14. M&P15T

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    Yes, you are correct. I definitely would compromise to not get crushed by massive, sweeping anti-gun legislation.

    Now answer the question I asked you directly in post #52.
     
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  15. RussP

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    Take careful note. Is the following a direct response?
    I'll put it another way. Absent a dissenting viewpoint, everyone agrees that there will be anti-gun legislation.
     
  16. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

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    i dont know if it will pass.
     
  17. M&P15T

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    Just to paraphrase for clarity: You DO believe that anti-gun legislation is dfinitely coming.

    O.k., we now have a starting point.

    What do you think we should do right now? Do you believe that there is anything we can do to not see sweeping, anti-gun legislation?
     
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  18. RussP

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    The consensus in several threads has had two parts: Legislation will be proposed; No one knows if or in what form it will pass.
     
  19. M&P15T

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    Nor do I, nor does anyone.

    What would be your best guess right now? As things sit today?
     
  20. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

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    as its been proposed by feinstein it will not pass.