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Circa 1994 NIB G19 Mechanical Issue

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by pilot5131, Feb 28, 2010.

  1. pilot5131

    pilot5131

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    I tried posting this yesterday but for some reason it never showed up in the forums so I'll try again. I recently purchased a never fired 1994 Glock 19. After thoroughly cleaning and lightly lubing it I took it to the range a couple days ago and put one hundred rounds through it. In general I'm really happy with it but in those hundred rounds I had in the neighborhood of four stove pipes, five failure to feeds and at least three times where the slide did not lock open after the last shot. I was using the original 1994 Glock magazine and a Korean KCI magazine, both fifteen rounders, and I was loading three to four rounds per firing cycle. I suppose the issues could be magazine issues or maybe the gun just needs more rounds to loosen up, but I'm also wondering if it could be a recoil spring assembly problem. (not allowing the slide to move all the way back, leading to the loading and extraction problems) Could the spring tension INCREASE after fifteen years of no use? I'm considering ordering a Wolff spring assembly but thought I'd ask here first. Any comments would be appreciated.
     
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    ipscshooter Mostly IDPA now

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    Put aside the KCI mags until you get this figured out.

    Get a few new magazines.

    Lock your wrist, watch that your are not bumping the slide release/lock with your thumb.

    Clean and lube per that manual, and shoot.

    Recoil spring is fine.
     

  3. pilot5131

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    Yeah, I'm definitely looking to pick up a couple new magazines this week. Thanks for the other tips.
     
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    Significant question number one: What are you using for ammo?
     
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    Right, I meant to add that and realized later it wasn't in my original post. I was using primarily commercial reloads. (I haven't gotten into reloading myself yet but that's probably on the horizon) I think a good number of the rounds I used were from HSM in the bright orange boxes.
     
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    RELOADS
    KCI

    2 problems right there. Shoot 250 rounds of UMC, Winchester, Remington, or Wolf. Load mag full from the start.

    Then come back with a progress report.
     
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    This ^^^^^^^^
     
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    My 19 didn't like the HSM at the start when I got it. I stayed with the ammo because my work gave it to me to shoot. After around 200-250, it went with out a problem. I blamed the HSM ammo at first because it worked great in all my other guns, but then I got to reading around. I came to the conclusion that it was the gun being so new.
     
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    I think you should just keep shooting it, might need to be broken in a bit.
     
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    Use Glock mags and new ammo.
    :supergrin:
     
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    +1 on this response.
     
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    glock192327 Where is eye

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    Also check for possible recalls....there is a thread here somewhere.
    But I'd imagine the guys above have taken care of it....with the crap mag, and possible ammo issues...full Glock mags,and shoot it.
     
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    Good call. I didn't think about ammo, since I always use name brand or my own reloads.

    You may want the check the slide lock spring and change it. The older ones were the thin necked down version. The newer ones are the full width.

    http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1024025
     
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    Thanks for all the help. I have several hundred rounds of Wolf and quite a bit of Remington too, so I'll spend so more time at the range using those. And I'll plan on using full mags as well.
     
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    But this won't affect the stovepipes.

    OP, how much experience do you have shooting Glocks? And no, your recoil spring did not get stiffer while sitting.
     
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    This is my first Glock. Prior to this I have shot 1911's and SW's.
     
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    True. I tried to address the stovepipes, etc. in an earlier post.

    The mention of the slide lock spring was just to let him know of the issue with OLDER guns. An easy, inexpensive fix that may prevent the slide falling off the gun someday. :supergrin:
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if you find that a tighter grip (at least with your weak hand), locked wrists, and a more rigid stance completely stops the problem. The light weight of the Glock and it being a Glock makes it more susceptible to limp-wristing than what you've previously used. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsewsolPyBU&NR=1 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh9JhCyFFxA if you haven't already seen them. It is just the nature of the brand.
     
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    That is something I definitely will be pursuing. Where can the newer slide lock springs be sourced from?
     
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    bentbiker, thanks, I'll take a look at those.

    edit: well, the videos are certainly an eye-opener. I had never heard that about Glocks before.
     
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