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Discussion in 'Religious Issues' started by Merrixs, Nov 15, 2012.

  1. Merrixs


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    I would like to make it very clear that I am posting this only because I felt like sharing such a profound message, and I am not trying to start a discussion or argument about who is right or wrong. If you are interested from the title please give it a read. If you have something against what I am sharing, please leave it in another thread created by you.

    Here is a very well written message from a black female republican about how she feels about the democratic party through the eyes of her Christian faith.

    Post Election Rant . . . « The Minority Republican

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    "A couple of days ago, God gave the people what they wanted. This heated election season is over. We have our president. The people passed over Mitt Romney, the Republican candidate, and overwhelming lent their support for Obama and the Democrat agenda.

    I can understand the peoples support for the Democrat Party. Much of what they say they stand for sounds moral and compassionate, especially concerning the poor and minority populations. Yet, my convictions and research eventually led me to reject the Democrat ideology, preferring to side with people and political parties more aligned with the morals and values consistent with my Christian faith.

    I used to be a Democrat, but I am no longer. I am a registered Republican. Not because I thought the Republican Party was so righteous, but because there came a time in my life as a Democrat, that I could no longer reconcile my politics and my faith.

    Since my faith supersedes everything else for me, I find that it is pure madness for me to vote for politicians who uphold policies that are in a direct conflict with my faith. It is foolishness for me to vote against my own values and interests. Christianity is more than a title for me, it is who I am and determines how I live and how I view the world.

    Since I am not only a Christian, but a citizen of this nation, I have the right to share and debate my values and ideas, as does everyone else. I am so proud that I can, with my vote, influence this nation in upholding godly principles and values. I will continue to vote with the party and/or persons that supports what I interpret to be godly and biblical values—the Judeo Christian values that were engrafted into our constitution and laws—the values that made this nation the greatest nation on earth and have afforded people of EVERY faith, and people who claim to have NO faith, to live free and prosperous lives here.

    Great nations have fallen because of grievous sins and ungodliness and America is not exempt. In Scripture, when Israel was prosperous, it was not because of her own economic ingenious. Israel was blessed when she obeyed God—when she as a nation loved what God loved, and hated what God hated.

    The primary reasons why I reject the Democrat platform is because it has within it the most immoral and ungodly principles to guide this nation. Our preference for this course for our nation is a sure sign that we as a nation have not rejected the Republican Party, per se, but we have rejected God. Just like in the days of Samuel, when the Israelites demanded that Samuel “appoint them a king,” God told Samuel, “Obey the voice of the people in all that they say to you, for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected me.”

    Rejecting God will be, as our enemies would say, death to America. It is our flat out refusal to love what God loves and detest what He detests that will drive this nation over a moral and economic cliff.

    Even though I adamantly reject the Democrats historic racist position concerning black Americans, racism is but one sin. As a Christian, I cannot reconcile my faith with the Democrat’s support of socialism, re-defining marriage, and abortion.

    President Obama “impressively” won 93% of the black vote! I am black, but I am among the 7% who did not lend Obama my support. What may be perplexing to some is that blacks are overwhelmingly conservative in their moral values and convictions, so their support of the Democrat Party seems inconsistent. Yet, for these black Christians, they believe that the Republican Party perpetuates the “unforgivable” sins of racism and oppression of the poor. Jesus, they say, admonishes us to care for the “least of these” in society. Never mind what history confirms about the Democrats, these Christians believe that it is the Republicans that are perpetuating hatred and discrimination against so many that have less pigment and/or estrogen than they do. I understand the argument. I lived the argument. I believed the accusations that are waged against Republicans; accusations that Republicans have done so poorly to defend themselves against.

    To the “black liberation theology” prodigies, it is the “black man” that must receive it’s just dues from its evil white oppressors that have kept blacks trapped in failing schools, in crime ridden neighborhoods, and without job skills and an education that would make them employable. These evil white oppressors may once have been Southern Democrats and the Ku Klux Klan, but now they are Republicans.

    This is what many blacks believe about Republicans. And though you show them proof of otherwise, they will find you tons of revisionist historical literature to defend their past oppressors, the Democrats.

    I have been told by a few of my black Christian friends concerning this election that God has upheld the “black man” in righteousness and protected him from the “haters.” I want people to really get this and understand. Obama is not president because he is righteous. There is NOTHING righteous about Obama’s support for child killing, sodomy, covetousness, and idolatry. His black skin does not make him right for black people. Obama does not share the values of most blacks and his policies hurt the people he claims he wants to help.

    BUT, what God has said in his Word is coming to pass. Christians are aligning themselves with lawlessness and ungodliness. And because Obama is black, many blacks and others choose not to acknowledge how far into abomination that Obama has taken them. They choose to overlook and ignore what God says in his Word concerning the moral and economic issues we face as a nation, choosing instead to side with Obama’s words over God’s Word:

    “Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”

    God has PROMISED to judge in righteousness and has often used ungodly rulers to execute his judgment. Surely America will be judged for her grievous sins that go up daily as a stench in the nostrils of a holy God. I just pray that God has mercy upon this nation and upon us all.

    I have also been told to “get over it” and not be a sore loser. I am told to pray for our president because that is what we as Christians are suppose to do, because everything is in God’s hand anyways. True, God is in control. Obama is president by God’s permissive will.

    But I am not so convinced that if Mitt Romney had won the presidency, black Christians would be praying for him as they tell me to do for Obama. Instead I believe that we would continue to hear from the leftist liberals the same old tirade of rants about racism that we have been hearing for the past few months; and hearing blacks call Mitt Romney out for being the “racist that he is” and fearing that he will bring back Jim Crow.

    In fact, I don’t remember the black Christian community praying for Bush or any other president the way they do for Obama. In fact, I remember some pretty fancy and ungodly words and terms used to describe President George W. Bush. I won’t repeat them here.

    Regardless of this, I WILL pray for our president. I will pray that he repents and turns to God, and leads this nation in the path of righteousness. I pray that he surrounds himself with godly counsel and does not shun and mock the Word of God.

    I pray for his success.

    BUT, his success should not be measured in how many people he can put on foodstamps, but how many people his policies free from foodstamps. His success should not be measured in how many poverty programs he enacts, but in how many poverty programs he needs to eliminate because Americans are working and successful. His success should be measured not by how many women he gives access and money to have abortions, but how many abortion clinics need to be shut down because their services are no longer needed. His success should be measured not in how much wealth he can redistribute, but how much wealth he can help individuals and businesses generate; thereby keeping America the most prosperous and generous nation on earth. I want Obama to have success because his success is America’s success.

    And for the record, I don’t hate Democrats, but I do hate the policies and ideas they have aligned themselves with. I really have a problem with the way the Democrats “pimp” the poor. Yeah, I said it! They are poverty pimps and they use the poor as pawns. They stir up envy and hatred among the poor and pit them against the rich, causing the poor to covet and vote for politicians who will steal from the wealthy and give it to them. They vote for politicians that will “punish” big business, but in the end, it is these job creators that have to lay-off workers, raise prices, send jobs overseas, or shut their doors–ultimately hurting the poor and increasing the poverty base.

    I won’t go on much more, but “redistribution of wealth” and “paying your fair share,” are rooted in covetousness and there is no biblical foundation to justify our government stealing from one family to give to another. Unless under your immediate or parental care, no one should be forced to pay for another’s health insurance, home, car, education, food, clothing or anything else. Redistribution of wealth eventually leads to redistribution of poverty because ultimately everyone will be equal, but they will be equally poor.

    Some of the current issues in the forefront of the divisions between Democrats and Republicans are non-negotiable for me. Though they are far from perfect and in need of some soul searching themselves, I admire the historic position and legacy of the Republican Party for championing the rights of women, blacks, and the poor. This is part of the reason they still have my support. We as a party have some work to do. But the reason I choose not to vote Democrat has little to do with the fact that they are the party of Jim Crow and the KKK, but that today they are on the wrong side of the EVERY ISSUE that matters to me most. “Choice,” “Reproductive Rights,” “Marriage Equality,” “Fair Share,” are all repackaged code names for the same age old sins: “child-killing,” “sodomy,” and “covetousness.” Nothing new under the sun."

    God Bless,
  2. Glock30Eric

    Glock30Eric .45 ACP

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    WOW!!!! Awesome long post!!! I pray that more people could read your post and take it into consideration.

    In Christ,


  3. Kentak


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    Religious people have the right to hold and observe those beliefs and values their faith requires of them.

    My issue is when they want to use the authority of government via force of law to impose the effect of those beliefs on everyone else, even those who hold different views.

    For example, orthodox Jews don't conduct business during the Sabbath. They would, for example, close a retail store they own. If you were a Christian retail store owner who does business in a Jewish community, how would you feel if the city council mandated all businesses close on the Jewish Sabbath or other holy days? You'd probably have the attitude of, "Hey, do what you want with your own business, but I have a different belief about that issue. Why should I be forced to follow your beliefs?"

    Strict Muslims forbid women from going out in public alone or unless wearing severe head and other body coverings. Should a Muslim community make it illegal for all women to violate those rules in their community, even those who are not Muslim? That's not religious freedom, that's religious dictatorship.

    Many Christians believe that life is sacred from the moment of conception. Therefore, they believe abortion is wrong under virtually all circumstances. Fine, don't have an abortion. But, by wanting to make abortion illegal for all, they are imposing their religious beliefs on everyone--just as the Jews or Muslims in the above hypothetical examples would be. The issue of opposing government funding for abortions is a separate matter and a legitimate area of political discussion. Opposing the funding is okay, opposing the legality of abortion is imposing the effect of a religious belief and not, in my view, consistent with the concept of liberty.

    Sodomy? Homosexuality? Same sex marriage? Fine, if your religion believes those things are wrong, here's the answer: Don't be a homosexual, don't engage in sodomy or other homosexual acts, and don't enter into a same sex marriage. Problem solved. You're living your life according to your beliefs. But, why should you prevent, by law, other consenting adults from expressing their sexuality differently? Is that the proper function of government for free people? I maintain it is not.
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  4. Vic Hays

    Vic Hays

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    The Bible agrees with you in the main. Real Christians are going to vote for the person who represents honesty and integrity and holds those values high. Unfortunately politics is so rife with double talk it is difficult for people to get past the philosophy to the real issues. This is complicated by people's denial of their own lusts and desires that are attracted to what they want to hear.
  5. muscogee


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    Typical far right theocratic Republican rant. The author offers nothing we haven't heard over and over. As a black female she may have found her particular nitch from which to preach to the choir and gain notoriety, but she really has nothing noteworthy to say to anyone else.
  6. hogfish

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    'She' never changed. The only difference is she's voting for a different party. She is the worst of both worlds: (1)far religious right; (2)far socialist left. :crying: