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  1. mdhandyman

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    Feds: Homes with Chinese drywall must be gutted

    New guidelines say homes tainted by Chinese drywall, many in the South, should be gutted.

    [​IMG] FILE - In this Oct. 15, 2009 file photo, a large chunk of Chinese drywall from the Alfonso Sanchez home in Davie, Fla. leans against the wall. New federal guidelines released Friday, April 2, 2010, say thousands of U.S. homes tainted by Chinese drywall won't be safe unless they are completely gutted.(AP Photo/J Pat Carter, file)


    Cain Burdeau, Associated Press Writer, On Friday April 2, 2010, 4:41 pm EDT
    NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- Thousands of U.S. homes tainted by Chinese drywall should be gutted, according to new guidelines released Friday by the Consumer Product Safety Commission.
    The guidelines say electrical wiring, outlets, circuit breakers, fire alarm systems, carbon monoxide alarms, fire sprinklers, gas pipes and drywall need to be removed.
    "We want families to tear it all out and rebuild the interior of their homes, and they need to start this to get their lives started all over again," said Inez Tenenbaum, chairwoman of the commission, the federal agency charged with making sure consumer products are safe.
    About 3,000 homeowners, mostly in Florida, Virginia, Mississippi, Alabama and Louisiana, have reported problems with the Chinese-made drywall, which was imported in large quantities during the housing boom and after a string of Gulf Coast hurricanes.
    The drywall has been linked to corrosion of wiring, air conditioning units, computers, doorknobs and jewelry, along with possible health effects. Tenenbaum said some samples of the Chinese-made product emit 100 times as much hydrogen sulfide as drywall made elsewhere.
    The agency continues to investigate possible health effects, but preliminary studies have found a possible link between throat, nose and lung irritation and high levels of hydrogen sulfide gas emitted from the wallboard, coupled with formaldehyde, which is commonly found in new houses.
    U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., said now the question is who pays to gut the homes.
    "The way I see it, homeowners didn't cause this. The manufacturers in China did," Nelson said. "That's why we've got to go after the Chinese government now."
    Southern members of Congress have sought to make it easier to sue Chinese manufacturers and to get the Federal Emergency Management Agency to help homeowners pay for costs not covered by insurance. They also say the U.S. needs to pressure the Chinese government, which allegedly ran some of the companies that made defective drywall.
    About 2,100 homeowners have filed suit in federal court in New Orleans against Chinese manufacturers and U.S. companies that sold the drywall. U.S. District Judge Eldon Fallon is expected to rule soon in a pivotal case against the Knauf Plasterboard Tianjin Co., the only Chinese company that has responded to U.S. suits.
    Separate claims by thousands more homeowners against Chinese manufacturers are pending, said Jordan Chaikin, a Florida lawyer whose firm represents about 1,000 homeowners.
    They are "continuing to live in their homes with Chinese drywall, patiently waiting for this thing to be resolved so they can move on with their lives," Chaikin said. "We're not waiting for the government to move quicker than we are in the courts."
    In some cases, homebuilders have paid to gut and rewire homes. In others, homeowners who can afford it have paid for the work themselves. Knauf Plasterboard has offered to pay for remediation in homes where its defective drywall was installed.
    On Friday, Knauf Plasterboard agreed that high hydrogen sulfide levels appeared to be the main concern, but it noted the commission's studies were preliminary and may not reflect conditions inside a home. The company said its studies have shown that drywall should be removed, but that plumbing and wiring do not need to go.
    Daniel Becnel, a New Orleans lawyer representing Chinese drywall plaintiffs, including Sean Payton, the head coach of the Super Bowl champion New Orleans Saints, said the government guidelines issued Friday were "word for word what our experts said."
    He also said Congress should give homeowners grants to cover the cost of home gutting.
    "Get these people out of this environment," he said. "You're making these people sicker and sicker and sicker. You will have long-term effects."
    In Cape Coral, Fla., Joyce Dowdy, 71, and her husband Sonny, 63, plan to move out of their $150,000, 1,600-square-foot home while it is gutted to get rid of tainted Chinese drywall.
    Joyce Dowdy said she suffers from nose bleeds and her husband has a persistent cough. They blame the drywall.
    "We can't live like this anymore," Joyce Dowdy.
    They're borrowing money to do the gutting, which means that instead of a mortgage-free retirement they will be paying monthly bills cover the costs of repair.
    "It's costing us as much as we paid for the house," Joyce Dowdy said. "But we can't just walk away ... Our house is worth nothing at the moment."
    But Randy Noel, past president of the Louisiana Home Builders Association, said the Chinese drywall problem has been exaggerated. He called the new guidelines "overkill."
    "Nobody has come up with a house yet that has caught on fire from the Chinese drywall, no one has come up yet with a house that leaks water or gas because of Chinese drywall," he said.
    He has examined numerous homes containing Chinese drywall and found minor problems, he said.
    "It's a black soot on top of the copper, brass and silver," he said. "You wipe the stuff off and it looks as good as new."

    :upeyes:
    Good luck going after the
    Chinese Government
    For New U.S. federal guidelines.
     
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    Big story around here.....has been for a couple years.
     
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    Wow! That couldn't have come at a better economical time!:upeyes:
     
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    Hey! A make-work program for drywall hangers!
     
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    How can the Chinese make something as heavy and as low tech as drywall, ship it from the other side of the world, and still sell it at a cheaper price than it costs for us to make it right here in our own backyard?

    What is wrong with us?

    Are we that far gone?
     
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    Maybe it's cheaper because of the cancerous gas it emits? :whistling:
     
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    from what I read years ago when this issue was first known, the Chinese were using recycled gypsum that was used to clean factory smokestacks.

    That is why the levels of hydrogen sulfide are through the roof in their drywall, and why it is so cheap; American makers use virgin gypsum.
     
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    It seems as if Randy Noel retired, an don't want any body to do anything about it.
     
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    Yea for me!

    In reality, my company hangs US made gypsum, nothing else..
     
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    It sounds like a good policy. It may cost a little more up front, but I'm sure it's much cheaper than redoing the Chinese stuff.:wavey:
     
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    Yeah, they were probably paid to take the crappy gypsum.

    Who passed this stuff? Just about every other building product has to pass codes and be stamped. I wonder how much the builders actually saved using this junk.
     
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    Ditto.
     
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    Yes...yes, we are...
     
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    You are right. They built a new National Gyp plant in Mt. Holly, NC a few years ago. They said they picked that spot was because it's about 5 miles away from a Duke Power plant.
     
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    Sean Payton's family has been out of their NOLA home all thru the 2009 NFL season due to this crap.

    Those folks in NOLA finally got their lives and homes back in order and now they have to tear it all apart again.
     
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    The Chinese dominated the drywall market after hurricane Katrina.
     
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    It wasn't just the storm.

    During the "building boom" in FL there was often a shortage of supply (and then of course cost concerns) which led many builders to buy that stuff. I am the last person to jump on the latest scare bandwagon, but this concern seems legit. A lot of people are left with a big problem.
     
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    So, are the homeowners left holding the bag on this one? If so, that really sucks. If not.... Seems like they'd have a hard time getting compensated.
     
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    CPSC has received about 3,082 reports from residents in 37 states, the District of Columbia, American Samoa, and Puerto Rico who believe their health symptoms or the corrosion of certain metal components in their homes are related to problem drywall. State and local authorities have also received similar reports.
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    Homeowners report corrosion or blackening of metal in or on electrical fixtures, appliances, plumbing and air conditioner coils.
    Consumers largely report that their homes were built in 2006 to 2007, when an unprecedented increase in new construction occurred in part due to the hurricanes of 2004 and 2005.