Chicago PD considering scrapping entrance exams to boost minority hiring

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by seanmcp, Jan 6, 2010.

  1. seanmcp

    seanmcp CLM

    Messages:
    318
    Likes Received:
    1
    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2002
    Location:
    Louisville, KY/Jeffersonville, IN
    I was wondering what you all thought about this and if it was more than just random rumor? Is this something other departments are talking about? As always, I'm not LEO, so this isn't a 'personal' issue, but I do try to stay current on LEO items so I can write the correct letters of support to my local administration folks (mayors, etc) and be sure they're treating our LEOs right!

    http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/chicago-police-scrap-entrance-exam-80790827.html

    The Chicago Police Department is seriously considering scrapping the police entrance exam, sources tell Fran Spielman.

    Dropping the exam would bolster minority hiring and avert legal battles, according to one source, while others confirm that the exam could be scrapped to open the process to as many people as possible.

    However, the lack of an exam would make Chicago the lone major city without one, and experts contend that the exam is integral to eliminating unqualified applicants.
     
  2. Sgt127

    Sgt127

    Messages:
    4,135
    Likes Received:
    3,557
    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2002
    Location:
    Texas
    I'm speechless......:faint:
     

  3. GioaJack

    GioaJack Conifer Jack

    Messages:
    10,016
    Likes Received:
    6
    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    Location:
    Conifer, CO
    The City of Miami lowered their standards in an attempt to attract more Cuban applicants after the influx of the Mariel Boat Lift refugees. A full third of the new hires ended up being charged with various crimes. Seems the grand plan didn't work out so well.

    Jack
     
  4. razdog76

    razdog76 Heavy Mettle

    Messages:
    3,723
    Likes Received:
    67
    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2007
    Location:
    Ohio
    What test will there be to determine if the candidate can read and write English, it is kind of a need to know thing.

    I can see it now...

    FTO: Hey Officer Gimp, read him his rights.

    Officer Gimp: I-I-I, cccan't.

    FTO: What do you mean you c-c-can't.

    Officer Gimp: I don't (muffled voice) know how.

    FTO: WTF!
     
  5. Dragoon44

    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

    Messages:
    20,256
    Likes Received:
    5,364
    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2005
    Can't say I am surprised.
     
  6. volsbear

    volsbear IWannaBeSedated Lifetime Member

    Messages:
    11,458
    Likes Received:
    44
    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2007
    Location:
    Illinois
    Chicago will just keep lowering the bar until the difference between the cops and ******bags is barely observable.
     
  7. BleedNOrange

    BleedNOrange Go Vols

    Messages:
    1,327
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2009
    Location:
    Volunteer State
    "Dropping the exam would bolster minority hiring and avert legal battles"

    I think the legal battles due to incompetent officers would be much more.
     
  8. Captain Caveman

    Captain Caveman a.k.a. DaReaper

    Messages:
    1,251
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2003
    Location:
    Colorado
    Next thing they'll do is eliminate training standards :shakehead:
     
  9. janice6

    janice6 Silver Member

    Messages:
    41,703
    Likes Received:
    43,432
    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2006
    Location:
    minnesota
    Great! Taker any jerk off the street, give him the authority to enforce laws (real or imagined), give him the power to confiscate "stuff", the ability to use a gun on his own discretion, and don't select the best and brightest; then see how much crime you can create.............
     
  10. blueiron

    blueiron

    Messages:
    11,258
    Likes Received:
    206
    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2004
    Eliminate all testing and you have no problem hiring, just like if you eliminate all laws, you have no crime.
     
  11. hagar

    hagar Millennium Member

    Messages:
    1,143
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 7, 1999
    Location:
    Columbia, SC
    It already happened a long time ago..:wow:
     
  12. fla2760

    fla2760

    Messages:
    1,987
    Likes Received:
    521
    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2006
    Location:
    FL
    This is no surprise. Daleyland has always had its own set of rules.:whistling:
     
  13. volsbear

    volsbear IWannaBeSedated Lifetime Member

    Messages:
    11,458
    Likes Received:
    44
    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2007
    Location:
    Illinois
    There's still some great guys working for CPD. I know of a couple. But they're getting harder to find.
     
  14. glock192327

    glock192327 Where is eye

    Messages:
    910
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2009
    Location:
    Roughly 35 North by 81 West
    This is a joke, right?
     
  15. fla2760

    fla2760

    Messages:
    1,987
    Likes Received:
    521
    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2006
    Location:
    FL

    They are really shortsighted. I can see this being used in lawsuits down the road when an allegation is made that the police did or did not do something that resulted in injury or death and some member of the bar finds out that no entrance exam was taken by the officer(S). I am curios if they are going to also lower the standards during field training?
     
  16. seanmcp

    seanmcp CLM

    Messages:
    318
    Likes Received:
    1
    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2002
    Location:
    Louisville, KY/Jeffersonville, IN
    I guess I wonder how this will really help. In theory, all it does is move the cost of removing incapable officers from the front end (fairly low cost at exam time) to the training end (when it's much more expensive to weed them out). I just don't get it. It costs more for the same results. If someone can't pass the entrance exam they won't pass any of the later work, either...
     
  17. m2hmghb

    m2hmghb

    Messages:
    8,705
    Likes Received:
    117
    Joined:
    May 27, 2002
    Location:
    Livin in the country of NJ
    This is the plot for the Police Academy series of movies
     
  18. volsbear

    volsbear IWannaBeSedated Lifetime Member

    Messages:
    11,458
    Likes Received:
    44
    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2007
    Location:
    Illinois
    At least Tackleberry had something to offer.

    [​IMG]
     
  19. blueiron

    blueiron

    Messages:
    11,258
    Likes Received:
    206
    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2004
    [​IMG]


    Callahan had more to offer!
     
  20. volsbear

    volsbear IWannaBeSedated Lifetime Member

    Messages:
    11,458
    Likes Received:
    44
    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2007
    Location:
    Illinois
    That's difficult to argue LOL