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Cheap guns are good enough

Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by tagaykoyan, Jan 19, 2007.

  1. tagaykoyan

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    yah. I read most of that backwoodshome articles by Massad Ayoob. His logic precisely agrees with my principle for people who are thinking of buying their first gun. A cheap reliable gun that you can buy now is better than an expensive one that you will have to wait for funds to buy later. Earn money for the expensive ones when you already have a gun that you can use in time of need.
     

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    Mas has written it elsewhere, but an added plus to inexpensive firearms
    is that if you get into an SD shoot, and the authorities confiscate your weapon
    as evidence, it won't hurt as much.

    In fact, the odds of the evidence being "lost" go up if the item is an expensive
    little piece of custom metal.
     
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    Good article. Thanks for the link :)
     
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    nrmcolt What?

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    +1




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    good article! :) thanks for sharing... 1point for the good guys:thumbsup: it does make u feel good especially if u buy cheap local guns :)
     
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    Whether local or imported, cheap or expensive, the important thing to remember is we have to check our equipment before relying on it in the real world.
     
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    anticentipede IN GOD WE TRUST

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    The problem is the easy to use guns aren't cheap, as they're usually the imported kind. The cheap ones require more skill to use and more time and effort to maintain. And then there's the question of ammunition compatibility, the cheap guns are usually more choosy.

    You could always go for a cheap revolver, fewer problems, easy to use, easy to maintain, use any kind of ammo, but you don't have enough bullets.

    And then there's the cost of the gun license and the permit to carry, which would even be more expensive than a cheap gun.
     
  9. Valor1

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    Kapg cheap, wala masyadong appreciation in price o collector's value. Para maganda, bili ka ng isang STI Edge pero pang-altar lang o pang yabangan occassions. Tapos bumili ka ng murang 1911 like an Armscorp o Norinco tapos yun ang gamitin mo sa bad guys. Kapag kinuhang evidence, sa kanila na iyung P 15,000 mo na baril. O kaya sabihin mo sa kanila, wait lang at itatago ko muna itong STI at papalitan ko ng Norinco.

    Kidding aside, whatever gun you have, mag-practice ka na muna doon ng iyong marksmanship skills. Kalimutan muna iyang mga mods at darating ka din dyan. The most effective gun is the one that you currently have and practice with.
     
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    I dont feel outgunned when Im packin' a revolver. :).

    Thing is, how many of us survived enough defensive shoots to come to the conclusion that 5 or 6 rounds of ammo is not enough to win a gunfight? We're not gonna shoot an IPSC match anyway.
     
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    i think massad ayoob's point is cheap guns are good enough for home defense. and a revolver, imo, is good enough. itutok mo yung .357 magnum mo sa tumbong ng magnanakaw tignan ko kung di kumaripas ng takbo yun.:animlol: sometimes you don't even have to shoot a single bullet to prevent a crime from being committed in your home.
     
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    are norinco tokarevs any good?
    i am considring one for home use.
    8 rounds in the mag is enough?
    cheap for only 16,500 with papers...right?
    or am i being scamed in the sale?
     
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    badshot, simple yan na design but just as good. is yours a 9 mm? i have one the norinco 54-1 in 7.62 x 25 tokarev. the 9 mm is pretty good too.
     
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    16,500? Medyo mataas. The original Tokarev is only 9,500 sa Twinpines plus processing.
     
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    kasama na daw po sa 16,500 processing ng papers. 10,900 po yata unit price. wala na daw po ako secure na permits
     
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    chief, 9,500 petot lang sa twin pines ying tokarev 213. papers around 4k+ siguro abutin
     
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    Don't you guys have problems finding the ammo for the NON-9mm. Tokarev? How much does it cost?

    Sorry, just ignore. i'm not interested in the Tokarev - it's the Makarov I am interested in. Anybody have one?
     
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    Get the mak in .380 cal.
     
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    i just found out that the norinco 213 has a model that has 14 rounds. does anybody know how much this goes?
    tnx.