close

Privacy guaranteed - Your email is not shared with anyone.

CCW chases down and opens fire on hit & run vehicle, killing girl, 13

Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by TBO, Mar 5, 2010.

  1. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

    Messages:
    53,590
    Likes Received:
    37,521
    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2002
    Location:
    1504 South 7th Street, Minneapolis, MN 55454
    [SIZE=+2] Houston man charged with murder after hit-and-run [/SIZE]

    03/05/2010
    Associated Press


    A Houston man accused of shooting a 13-year-old girl after a hit-and-run has been charged with murder.

    Police say the incident started when 24-year-old Richard Calderon's car smashed into a vehicle and then sped away. According to police reports, the owner of the struck car chased Calderon's car to write down the license plate number. But police say Calderon then started pursuing that car and opened fire.

    Police believe the girl was looking out the back window when she was shot late Wednesday.

    Calderon was charged Thursday. Investigators said Calderon is licensed to carry a concealed handgun. Police say he told officers that he thought he saw something shiny in the front-seat passenger's hand, and that's why he fired.

    ___
    Information from: Houston Chronicle, http://www.houstonchronicle.com
    <!-- vstory end -->
     
  2. HerrGlock

    HerrGlock Scouts Out CLM

    Messages:
    23,802
    Likes Received:
    256
    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2000
    They're going for the death penalty, I hope.
     

  3. 1811guy

    1811guy Formerly1811guy2

    Messages:
    3,531
    Likes Received:
    1
    Joined:
    May 1, 2001
    Cars are seldom worth defending with lethal force.
     
    Last edited: Mar 5, 2010
  4. mymini40

    mymini40

    Messages:
    3,391
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2009
    Location:
    battle creek,michigan
    stupidity knows no bounds.
     
  5. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

    Messages:
    53,590
    Likes Received:
    37,521
    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2002
    Location:
    1504 South 7th Street, Minneapolis, MN 55454
    TX, no doubt that's a possibility.
     
  6. Andy123

    Andy123

    Messages:
    1,501
    Likes Received:
    1
    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2004
    Location:
    NC and GA
    A few cancerous cells will kill the whole organism. It must be cut out.
     
  7. FireForged

    FireForged Millenium #3936 Millennium Member

    Messages:
    4,822
    Likes Received:
    619
    Joined:
    Dec 25, 1999
    Location:
    Rebel South
    All I can say is wow! The armed fellow had very little control over his emotions. Do we even know if he had a permit or was this just someone carrying a firearm.
     
    Last edited: Mar 5, 2010
  8. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

    Messages:
    53,590
    Likes Received:
    37,521
    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2002
    Location:
    1504 South 7th Street, Minneapolis, MN 55454
    From the article posted:
     
  9. ithaca_deerslayer

    ithaca_deerslayer

    Messages:
    24,477
    Likes Received:
    12,792
    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2000
    Location:
    Upstate NY, USA
    1. Bad for the girl, etc, but I can't really do much about that.

    2. Ouch, bad for the CCW movement. Everytime some idiot with a CCW does something stupid like that, it is bad for us all.

    See something shiny? Hit the brakes and drive away, or run away. Try to get away. I know every state has different laws, but I try to keep myself mentally prepared that I can only shoot if my or my family's life is in danger and we can't get away from that danger.

    Chasing after someone like this guy did, and then shooting, doesn't make sense.

    Just based on the little blurb in the OP story, and if that same general gist shook out like that in a courtroom, I'd convict the guy.
     
    Last edited: Mar 5, 2010
  10. freeride88

    freeride88

    Messages:
    466
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2002
    Location:
    Middle Tennessee
  11. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

    Messages:
    23,475
    Likes Received:
    8,320
    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2001
    two complete loosers and its the inncodent kid that pays for it....
     
  12. jsjdjn

    jsjdjn

    Messages:
    151
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2010
    Location:
    Phoenix, AZ
    Freaking phyco nut. He will be in for life, A short life, cop will have some one take him out in Jail...... Now the police are even more Pissed at CCW holders.
     
  13. ricklee4570

    ricklee4570

    Messages:
    1,846
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2009
    Its idiots like this that fuel the anti-gunners.
     
  14. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

    Messages:
    23,475
    Likes Received:
    8,320
    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2001
    yea, had he not been able to get a license to drive a car this would have never happened.....oh, you meant license to carry a gun didnt you?
     
  15. Cultldr

    Cultldr

    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Location:
    Chandler, AZ
    His bs story aside, it's a case of road rage, he hit the car, fled, she pursued he killed a 13 year old girl. Both of them are idiots and at a minimum he should go to Huntsville for life no possibility of parole.

    The mother who is a cop at a college I think it was needs to reflect and understand that if she would have just reported it rather than chasing the guy her daughter would be alive today most likely. :(

    I have been telling my wife for years, people on the road in Houston are insane. If something happens, don't flip people off, tailgate etc, too many people dying because they wanted to express their anger towards an idiot who is driving.

    As was said before, your vehicle is not worth dying over.
     
  16. RussP

    RussP Super Moderator Moderator

    Messages:
    35,883
    Likes Received:
    8,885
    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Location:
    Central Virginia
    And you know this as fact how?
     
  17. sigdeputy

    sigdeputy

    Messages:
    489
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2006
    Location:
    Texas
    Shooting from a moving vehicle, at another moving vehicle, because you see something "shiny"? Absolute stupidity.

    What I find most troubling is the part of story that says: "But police say Calderon then started pursuing that car and opened fire." Even if the other car displayed a weapon, and pointed at you before driving away, the threat is over if he is driving away. If you "pursue" the suspect, you will not be able to hide behind your concealed handgun status. You crossed the line.
     
  18. jsjdjn

    jsjdjn

    Messages:
    151
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2010
    Location:
    Phoenix, AZ
    Alot of cops do not like CCW holder wich is a shame because most CCW holders are on the cops side and can ans have saved cops lives. Jail is too good for a jerk like that.
     
  19. thegriz18

    thegriz18 Paper Killer

    Messages:
    3,065
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2007
    Location:
    Friend Zone
    Great, another tally for the Brady Bunch. Can we somehow keep idiots like this away from the rest of us?
     
  20. CraigV

    CraigV

    Messages:
    473
    Likes Received:
    21
    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2009
    Location:
    St. Charles, MO
    Bad deal all the way around.