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Cat and kitty food?? Recommendations??

Discussion in 'Woof Memorial Critter's Corner' started by Getwild2, Feb 16, 2006.

  1. Getwild2

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    When we brought home Sunny (5 mth old kitten) we were told that for the first year of his life he would need to eat "wet" food. Weeeell fortunate enough for our 4.5 year old cat, Silver, he got to cash in on this deal too (you can't show favorites).

    We currently feed them the inexpensive Friskies-brand wet food found at your local grocery. They each get one small can in the morning and one in the evening. We also leave Purina One dry food out for them to snack on, which they rarely touch.

    My question is, on a budget, is there anything else you can recommend or are we doing good so far? They dont like what I call the "mush" Friskies, they like the carved meat or prime filets, so that's what I get them.

    We also heard that Sunny should have half wet food and half dry food so that he can bulk up?! He seems to be "bulking up" pretty well so far, LOL, at least in his belly area. ;f

    Do you guys have any suggestions for a new kitten owner? We've only ever had adult cats, so we're pretty clueless.

    Both seem happy. Although Silver doesnt drink NEAR as much as he did when he was on 100% dry food, I assume this is because he is getting a lot more moisture/nutrients out of the wet food. Also their bowel movements smell worse than anything I've ever smelled before in my entire life. I attribute this to the new-found moisture in their systems (Silver used to have dry stool as constant dry food without hydration keeps a cat dehydrated).
     
  2. MrsKitty

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    On the advice of my vet, my three cats got KITTEN food until they were a year old. Then they moved on to hairball formula food.

    They never get canned food as a meal. Only as an occasional treat.

    Who told you to feed this way?
     

  3. ATL Peach Girl

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    Miss Kitty's right........

    ANY cat is gonna prefer wet food over the dry if that is all they get.....and they will all turn their nose up at the dry.......

    Start mixing the dry with the wet......and then only give a small amount of wet occationally as a treat.......

    My boys are on Science Diet Dental care and Science Diet Indoor Cat formula........a little more expensive, but it is low in ash and magnesium, high amounts of these can give urinary stones in the boy cats that are fixed........
     
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    I feed Scient Diet Hairball now.

    Vet told me Purina Kitten Chow was as good as all the other expensive ones.
     
  5. Getwild2

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    REALLLY??? ;P This is new to me!

    Looks like its time to change some eating habits and change them NOW!! Have to hit PetsMart tomorrow to see what they have. Mixing sounds like a good idea to lessen the intake of wet food.
     
  6. HarlDane

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    I prefer foods without grains like wheat, corn, and soy, and made without byproducts, and with human grade ingredients. Byproducts are for the most part not meat, but beaks, and feet. For cats most of that stuff just ends up as “undigestible proteins” and causes irritable bowls, and ungodly smells. Grains in small amounts are ok. But they should be small amounts of rice or oats. Beware of ingredient splitting. Listing yellow corn, corn meal and corn gluten meal as 3 things so that they can move them down the ingredient list, and you think your feeding your cat mostly chicken, but alas you’re feeding them corn, something they have very little use for.

    Some premium brands that I like are, Wellness, Felidae, and Pinnacle. Brands like Science Diet, Iams, and Purina One are ok, but I believe most formulas they offer contain corn, and byproducts. And none use human grade ingredients. To top that SD is way more than I pay for Felidae, and Iams and Purina One are about the same price as Felidae. All should be low in ash and magnesium.

    Here is an ingredient comparison:

    Felidae
    All Natural Ingredients
    Chicken Meal, Brown Rice, Chicken Fat, (Preserved with mixed Tocopherols), Eggs, Flax Seed Meal, Sun Cured Alfalfa Meal, Sunflower Oil, Chicken, Lecithin, Linoleic Acid, Amaranth, DL Methionine, Taurine, Kelp, Cranberries, Apples, Monocalcium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Rosemary Extract, Sage Extract, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Mixed Tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Vitamin A supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Niacin, Thiamin Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Riboflavin (source of B2), Beta Carotene, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid, D-Biotin, Sodium Selenite, Papaya, Vitamin B12 Supplement.

    Science Diet
    Ingredients
    Chicken By-Product Meal, Ground Whole Grain Corn, Animal Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Corn Gluten Meal, Brewers Rice, Chicken Liver Flavor, Fish Oil, Flaxseed, Dried Egg Product, Potassium Chloride, Soybean Mill Run, DL-Methionine, Choline Chloride, Calcium Carbonate, L-Lysine, Vitamin E Supplement, vitamins (L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin, Biotin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Taurine, Iodized Salt, minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), L-Tryptophan, Magnesium Oxide, preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid, L-Arginine, Beta-Carotene, Rosemary Extract.

    Besides the main reasons listed above, it is the little things I like about Felidae. Notice real eggs in Felidae, and Dried Egg Product in the SD. Also both claim to be low in magnesium. But magnesium is an ingredient in SD. It is not in the Felidae
     
  7. Getwild2

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    Wow, thanks RCJ for the info. That helps a lot...

    I've been doing some research online about cat food and have come up with two possibilities per my budget and availability.

    1. Natural Balance Ultra Premium Dry Cat Food (http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/catformulas/UltCat.html)
    mixed with Natural Balance Ultra Premium Canned Cat Food (http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/catformulas/NB_CatCanned.html)

    2. Royal Canin (http://www.royalcanin.com/produits/gb_chat_nourrir.asp). Not certain what to mix this with as they don't appear to make canned food.

    I'm thinking #1 judging by reviews, ingredients and price.

    Any thoughts??
     
  8. UtahIrishman

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    Our cats get fed IAM's. We used to feed them the cheaper stuff until my cat Mittens got a urinary tract infection ;Q IAM's was recommended by our vet for the problem. No problems since. AIM's has both wet and dry but our guys get dry catfood almost totally. We tried Science Diet for a short period, but it's more expensive than IAM's and there didn't seem to be any difference.

    Occassionally I will treat them to a bit of cheese. Don't know if the cheese is good for them, but they love it :)
     
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    Both look good, and I have heard good things about both brands. Go with the ones the cats seem to like the best, or the one that puts less strain on the wallet, although with just 2 cats they shouldn't eat you out of house and home.

    Cost has to be an issue with me. I live on a 20 acre farm out in the country. But I'm about 15 miles from Fresno, CA which has a metro population on about 500,000 people. Fairly often people drop cats off in the country when they no longer want them :steamed: (most of them pregnant females). Many end up at our house because were a bunch of suckers and feed them :) and if you have ever fed a stray you know they won't ever leave :). My fiancée and I let them have their litters(we won't do kitty abortions) and then get them fixed, and get them their shots. We adopt out some of them to loving homes, and give some of the young kittens to shelters that find homes for them. But many stay here, some becoming domesticated, and others remaining somewhat feral. Anyways enough about my unofficial cat rescue program :) . Good luck with your cats
     
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    I feed my 1 1/2 old, purebred Siamese Castor and Pollux Organix:


    http://www.castorpolluxpet.com/


    It's supposed to be "organic" but of course that can mean alot of things, but mostly I like that the #1 ingredient is organic chicken, no wheat or corn at all in it, it contains lots of pro and pre-biotics to help out digestion, and it has 31% protein.

    The 15 lbs bag is $29.99 and shipping is only $5 everyday direct from them. I go through about one bag per every four to five months, only on my second bag of food since switching her to this when she was about 9 months old.

    She ate Wellness Kitten till 9 months, both dry and canned, and she also got some Merrick canned too, which I still give her sometimes. She gets Nutro Natural packet food sometimes too.

    Before I got my little baby I crunched the numbers on alot of foods, and the higher quality ones really are not much more money, and even cheaper when you buy them in bulk vs getting small bags of grocery store brands of cat food.

    They really do eat less, and poo less with the higher nutrition content.
     
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    I've found it's best to mix it up with respect to dry and wet food with male cats. All of one is not usually the best thing. All wet, and they can get oral problems, all dry and you run the risk of urinary problems.

    For dry food, check the ash content, the lower the better. I've had two male cats develop urinary problems on all dry food (neither one would eat wet food, took forever to find something they would eat). Now I split dry and wet. The added moisture from the wet will help with urinary issues. It's not as much an issue for female cats. Both my females eat all dry. They don't seem to like the wet food I feed the male. An added benefit of the wet, if it's an indoor cat, is it won't tend to gain as much weight as with dry.
     
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    I started my two off with moistened kitten-formula dry food as soon as they got weened off their mother. They moved on to unmoistened kitten dry as their teeth got stronger and then "regular" dry food. They also developed a taste for wet food, of which they go through about a can and a half a day. The dry food sits in a fairly large double-bowl which gets consumed when we're not here. They will not eat wet food unless it's freshly served ( very finnicky ).
    They also eat from the table, and at the table, but that's a story in itself.
     
  13. Getwild2

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    Thanks to all for the suggestions!! ;a

    I ended up going with Option #1:
    Natural Balance Ultra Premium Dry Cat Food for Sunny and Natural Balance Low Calorie Dry Cat Food for Silver both mixed with Natural Balance Ultra Premium Canned Cat Food.

    They absolutely LOVE it!! Since they are so used to wet food, I put a tiny bit of warm water in with the wet/dry food mix to moisten things up a bit. They both eat hardily, are rarely hungry when its not dinner time and best of all...THE AWEFUL ROTTEN STOOL SMELL IS GONE!!! WOO HOO ;a

    FYI: I spoke with my boss at great length about the foul smell stool as his wife is a feline vet. specialist. He said that the foul smell indicates a problem with the food their ingesting. We then immediately changed their food to the above and the smell immediately went away. Their stool also hardened up a bit too, which is a plus!

    Thanks so much everyone for your suggestions and for sharing your routine with me. ;f
     
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    Purina KITTEN chow-according to my vet, the best for kittens.