You still need to check state law, because it may prohibit carrying. I would guess they gave you the laws/rules with the permit?Sorry if this was already answered: I did a search and came up with nothing related.
I'm a high school teacher, and have a PA concealed carry permit (LTCF). I was reading the US Code Title 18,922 where it says
"(q)
(2)
(A) It shall be unlawful for any individual knowingly to possess a firearm that has moved in or that otherwise affects interstate or foreign commerce at a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone.
(B) Subparagraph (A) does not apply to the possession of a firearm (i) on private property not part of school grounds;
(ii) if the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do so by the State in which the school zone is located or a political subdivision of the State, and the law of the State or political subdivision requires that, before an individual obtains such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license;"
It sounds like I can legally carry concealed into the school building? I always thought public schools were gun-free zones since the Columbine shooting?
Thanks.
that is not a concern in PA as we have full state preemption.I'd check for city or county laws that may supercede that.
that most likely is a concern.I'd also check an employee handbook, just to be aware of what may or may not happen to you, professionally, if your firearm comes to light.
(c) Defense.--It shall be a defense that the weapon is possessed and used in conjunction with a lawful supervised school activity or course or is possessed for other lawful purpose.
"For other lawful purpose" would seem to cover a person carrying with a LTCF. If carrying with a LTCF is not a lawful purpose, what is it....unlawful? It can't be both.
I think there is a case coming up where this "defense" may be finally decided by a court.
As I said.........."for other lawful purpose" has been argued to mean having a license to carry firearms. I personally know police officers who were called to a school because a person was said to have a firearm in their vehicle on school grounds. The officer said the person may be in violation of some school policy, but they are not breaking the law because of the "for other lawful purpose".It is against PA law to posess a weapon in a K-12 school. Also, because you aren't authorized by the state to carry there, you will also be in violation of the federal Gun Free School Zone act.
DON'T DO IT!
The US Code you sited is irrelevant to violations of PA law. Also, since PA doesn't permit you to carry in the school zone, neither does 18 USC Sec. 922 subsection (q). You will be in violation of both state and federal law.
Title 18 § 912 Possession of weapon on school property.
(a) Definition.--Notwithstanding the definition of "weapon" in section 907 (relating to possessing
instruments of crime), "weapon" for purposes of this section shall include but not be limited to any knife,
cutting instrument, cutting tool, nun-chuck stick, firearm, shotgun, rifle and any other tool, instrument or
implement capable of inflicting serious bodily injury.
(b) Offense defined.--A person commits a misdemeanor of the first degree if he possesses a weapon in the
buildings of, on the grounds of, or in any conveyance providing transportation to or from any elementary or
secondary publicly-funded educational institution, any elementary or secondary private school licensed by
the Department of Education or any elementary or secondary parochial school.
(c) Defense.--It shall be a defense that the weapon is possessed and used in conjunction with a lawful
supervised school activity or course or is possessed for other lawful purpose.
If you want to carry in K-12, move to Utah. They do permit it by state law, therefore you would be expempted from 18 USC Sec. 922 subsection (q) in Utah with a Utah (not a reciprocal state) permit.
Lot's of luck.As I said.........."for other lawful purpose" has been argued to mean having a license to carry firearms. I personally know police officers who were called to a school because a person was said to have a firearm in their vehicle on school grounds. The officer said the person may be in violation of some school policy, but they are not breaking the law because of the "for other lawful purpose".
Of course there is the flip side, which is the case I mentioned where "for other lawful purpose" may finally be settled in a court of law.
utah, alabama, and oregon off the top of my head.There was a big debate years ago about this. Essentially, it's up to the states. And I don't know of a single state that allows carry on a k-12 school. There could be one, but I haven't encountered it in my travels.
From the Code of Alabama (1975):There was a big debate years ago about this. Essentially, it's up to the states. And I don't know of a single state that allows carry on a k-12 school. There could be one, but I haven't encountered it in my travels.