Carrying at the Republican National Convention....

Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by El Viajero, Mar 25, 2016.

  1. Bryanmc57

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    Here, the list of state and county government offices you can't carry in is rather small. Mostly connected with courts and corrections.
     
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    RussP Super Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    It was reported today that the person that started the petition is a Hillary supporter out to embarrass the Republicans.
     
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    Whew! For a minute there I thought we might actually have to think about gun policy in the US as complex and nuanced. But never mind...Democrats.
     
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    I have a question for you, since I see you are in SC. Why does SC not honor the Utah non resident permit, like 38!! other states do?
     
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    Hillary....?
     
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    Thanks for the update. To me it is sad that we expend political capital on an issue like this that ends up working against us.
     
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    I don't think you can carry guns anywhere, where Secret Service protection is being provided.
    You cannot protest either.
    Those are laws that the Obama administration put in place to trap Tea Party protesters into felony arrest charges.
     
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    WARNING !!!
    Cleveland is a very liberal city like Chicago.
    Full of a bunch of anti-gun liberal Democrat judges & juries.
    They will be more than happy to put any Republican in prison for 20 yrs if you even try to defend yourself with a gun.
    They have a record of doing this here in Cleveland.
    AND just like in Chicago.
    They will send in the clowns !
    A mob of dumb liberals to start trouble.
    "Useful idiots" for the Socialist Democrat Party.
    A Democrat party that doesn't care if those "Useful Idiots" get felony charges or shot dead while attacking you.
    Besides, like in Chicago, Baltimore, Ferguson, etc. they never charge them with anything, that's just "Free Speech" they say.
    Whatever chaos and destruction they can stir up...
    They just want to blame it all on the Republican Party !
    That's all.
    Then put you in prison, and smear all Republicans as gun nut killer Cowboys.
    In hopes of winning the general election.
    That's the only thing that matters to Democrats.
    Staying in control of the government !
     
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    http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/restricted.asp

    HR 347 did not technically make it "illegal to protest anywhere the Secret Service is present," as a law to that effect had already been in place for over forty years. The primary differences between the previously existing law and the updated version enacted by HR 347 were:
    • The old law made it a federal offense to "willfully and knowingly" enter restricted buildings or grounds, now the law only specifies that one must "knowingly" enter such a space to be in violation of the law.
    • The updated version specifically defines the phrase "restricted buildings or grounds" to include "the White House or its grounds, or the Vice President's official residence or its grounds."
    Also, 224 Republicans voted for this when it passed in the House.
     
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    While I think it would be ok to CCW at the Repub convention it will never happen, the Secret Service will never allow people to pack heat at a political convention.
     
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    Go down and ask for Secret Service Protection. You won't get it. The Governors of states also get a security detail. The Mayor of most large cities, I know Chicago's mayor does, gets a protection detail. The police will not setup a protective detail just because you are you and your job is not senator, governor, or other politician. Sorry but that is a private guard being funded by tax dollars. The Secret Service did not take protective duty of the POTUS up until the mid 20th century.
     
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    I read through the article and could not find that statement, that it is publicly owned. The closest comment I found was, "The Cavaliers CEO Len Komoroski said in a statement that The Q is a public asset." There's a difference.

    The Q is owned by Gateway Economic Development Corporation of Greater Cleveland. This is from their website:

    Gateway Economic Development Corporation of Greater Cleveland is a 501 ( c ) ( 3 ) non-profit Ohio corporation legally separate from any other entity. The Board is appointed by elected officials of The City of Cleveland and Cuyahoga County, Ohio. Gateway owns both Progressive Field and Quicken Loans Arena and leases these facilities to the Cleveland Indians and Cleveland Cavaliers, respectively.​

    What do you understand "publicly owned" means?
     
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    It sounds more to me like a legitimate public law enforcement service that benefits the public and nation as a whole in greatly reducing the chances of our President being killed or taken hostage which in turn would almost certainly create substantial instability in our country not unlike that which happens in places in the Middle East and South America as examples. You may wish to call it "private guard service" but others see it as a very reasonable use of public funds and public law enforcement resources that maintains one of a myriad of metrics that differentiate us from third world places at where a small group or an individual can force a change in an elected office through violent criminality rather than a civilized process.
     
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    The way I understand this situation is the stadium is publicly owned but privately managed and land lorded. The tax payers of Cuyahoga county were asked to pay for half of the renovations on the stadium last year I believe. Not sure if it went anywhere but the Quicken folks only manage the stadium.
     
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    Gateway owns and manages the Q and Progressive Field. The county financed the acquisition and construction. Here are a couple of articles with more information.

    Cuyahoga County still paying off Gateway bonds

    Cuyahoga County considers paying millions to improve Quicken Loans Arena