fnfalman During the years I taught MSF I met some pretty ignorant new riders. But they were new to the sport. What's your excuse? Your comments about "rice burners", BMW, and Ducati sucking at racing, and Harley really do reach a new low. So all the major manufacturers are bad except KTM and Aprilia? And anyone who owns a BMW, Harley, or a "rice burner" doesn't have a clue? Because Aprilia has a great race record all other bikes suck? The fact that Ducati owned WSB for a decade doesn't matter, because they don't make great race bikes? How about when Mat Miladin owned AMA on a Suzuki? That doesn't count because it was a "rice burner"? What about all those years Rossi owned MotoGP on a Honda? Then on a Yamaha? Who owns MotoGP now? Where's Aprilia? The funny thing is, there are lots of great bikes out there, and your ignorance limits you to 2 brands.