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Care to educate me on grip reduction?

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by Mattyd, Feb 8, 2010.

  1. Mattyd

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    OK friends...I have read several places about grip reduction for those of us with smaller hands. Anyone have this done? Care to educate me on how much smaller it makes them, cost, etc? Thanks.
     
  2. Glock39Pirate

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    no grip reduction for me, I just switch calibers and haven't looked back. GAP is the only way.
     

  3. greenlion

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    He didn't say anything about large frame guns....
     
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  5. Bowtie

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    I can make a 30's grip smaller than a 19 if that helps with size comparison..
     
  6. Orange

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    None of your damn business!!
    Do not do it.

    If for whatever reason you come across hard times and must sell it. People will see it and ask/wonder what the hell did you do to it. You will not get even close to half of the used value of an unmodified Glock.

    You are creating a customized Glock frame for you and you alone.

    Yes, you own it.

    Yes, its yours to do what you want to do with it.

    Their is no turning back if you go this route.

    Think about this long and hard. OR buy some grip tape and go shoot your pistol.
     
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  7. Fire_Medic

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  8. Bowtie

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    I've sold two glocks with my grip mods for over $600 each. Can you get that out of a used stock Glock?
     
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  10. Orange

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    None of your damn business!!
    :rofl:

    Dont get pissy because someone has seen and experienced the opposite of your outcome.

    Say whatever you want:upeyes:

    I just disagree.

    I helped many times with a local FFL and every time a grip reduction pistol has come in the owner has turned them away. When we have setup at a gunshow the other (not all but most) FFLs have turned them away also (here come all the "I sold mine to an FFL with no problem crowd":faint:)

    Many times I have seen people with grip reductions done (PERMANENT ALTERATION) that could not get back what they had invested in the pistol plus the original price of the gun. All of this was at gunshows or pawnshops or even ranges that sell pistols none of those places would take them.
     
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  11. Discobobby

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    Had my 21SF reduced by Scottsdale Gun Club. I could not be happier. Every one of my friends that shoots it can't believe how much they like it. It makes it grip like a Browning High Power - and that's high praise indeed. I had them do the "Remove rear palm swell, texture back & sides of grip". They removed the the hollow that you generally fill with a grip plug and built up the rear of the magwell so that it's now the backstrap. It's solid and not fragile in the least, easily as strong as stock. And the re-texture rocks more than I expected.

    The guy who is telling you you'll ruin the resale value has no idea what he's talking about. If you sell it to some idiot at Cabela's, he's probably correct. But selling to somebody who knows Glocks, a good grip reduction adds value. Once they shoot it, they'll pay your asking price gladly.

    I have a standing offer for $800 for mine if I ever want to sell from a buddy who lusts after it like a horny rhino. I could probably get at least $700 within a few hours on a Saturday morning at the club. I guess it must be the Meprolights and the SS guide rod I added, not the grip work.

    If your Glock grips fat, or you just don't "click" with the grip, talk to the guys at Scottsdale Gun Club. Same quality as a Robar reduction and I had my gun back in less than 2 weeks. It's the best work I've ever had done to any pistol. Since they had it I also had them do a trigger job - every single part came back with literally a mirror finish, with no change in dimensions and it's as smooth as a baby's bottom, way better than any 25 cent trigger job I've ever seen or done.

    SGC's web site sucks and has the style of a porn site that's trying too hard to be "classy", but the link for the gunsmith shop is http://www.scottsdalegunclub.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=21&Itemid=37 and the price list is all the way at the bottom of the page. Worth every penny I paid.
     
  12. Bowtie

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    Oh I agree, it takes someone looking for a modded Glock and most FFL's arent willing to take that chance of having it sitting for god knows how long. BUT for someone looking for a grip mod or someone that hates Glocks because of the grip, they have no problem paying extra.
     
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    None of your damn business!!
    Ok, I agree with your statement. :wavey: I was just coming at it from a different angle.

    FFL will be on the sideline.

    A Glocker (addicted like us :supergrin:) would be in the market hard and heavy. Yeah it probably will be someone SPECIFICALLY hunting for one with the mod of a grip reduction.
     
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    Grip tape doesn't help a whole lot when the size or shape of the grip just isn't right to begin with.
     
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    Who cares about resale if it fits you. Anyone who buys a real custom gun that has features they specify will most likely never get what they paid back out of it if they sell it down the road. You go custom to make yourself happy not the next guy.
     
  16. MO Fugga

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    If I could have purchased my G20, slightly used of course, with a 3/4 grip job, I would have paid up to $700. I paid $550, NIB, SGC charges $165, minus the fact its used...deal. Now comparing grip jobs from several providers.
     
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    What he said.
     
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    does a grip reduction (removing the hump) help with trigger reach?
     
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    http://www.robarguns.com/

    http://www.boresightsolutions.com/

    http://www.carryguns.com/index.php

    http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com/

    http://www.bowietacticalconcepts.com/index.html

    http://www.glockgripreduction.com/

    http://www.burnscustom.com/

    http://www.m-guns.com/index.html

    http://www.tarnhelm.com

    http://www.barsto.com

    http://www.defensiveedge.net/

    http://www.advancedperformanceshooting.com

    http://www.cylinder-slide.com

    http://www.rosssportinggoods.com

    http://www.sgcblog.com/?p=138

    http://www.corsicacoatings.com/Glock_Frame_Mods.html

    http://sgcusa.com/Handguns-Glock-En.../Glock-Enhancement-Services/product_info.html

    http://www.krtraining.com/FAQs/ARTGlock.HTML

    http://www.glenncustom.com/pricing_grip_reduction.html

    http://www.shueycustom.com/glockservicepackages.htm

    http://www.glockwarehouse.com/

    http://atlantagrips.com/pb/wp_236c1ca0/wp_236c1ca0.html

    "For my own benefit and that of others, I would like to provide a listing of commercial Glock grip reduction service providers...

    Just off the top of my head I can think of the following (let me know if I miss any)...

    Arizona Response Systems
    Starts at $150 for the front and back plus more. Seems to have an excellent value to dollar ratio in terms of how much you get for what you pay. Beavertail is $85 as a stand alone item or $50. Will shorten or chop off the grip as a stand alone item for $100 or together with a grip reduction for $50.
    www.arizonaresponsesystems.com

    Robar
    Starts at $150 for back ONLY. Gets very expensive to add other features, for example, $40 just to round the trigger guard, $175 for just a beavertail. Will not shorten the grip.
    http://www.robarguns.com/DesktopDefa...d=5&tabindex=3

    Lonewolf Distributors
    Priced very closely with Arizona Response Systems (moderately cheaper but am not sure if it includes all the same stuff). They openly admit that they do not do the work themsevles but subcontract it out to some one in Missouri. At least they are honest and up front about it. Will shorten the grip only in conjunction with a grip redcution.
    http://www.lonewolfdist.com/products.asp?prod=14

    Burns Custom
    $200 for the front and back plus more. Does not include rounding the trigger guard and no such item is listed separately (though I imagine they could do it). $100 to shorten the grip, this appears to be available as a stand alone service. Also does not seem to offer a beavertail (though I imagine they could do it).
    http://www.burnscustom.com/

    Bowie Tactical Concepts
    Starts at $125 for front and back plus more (with only the back stippled, if you want the rest stippled it is an extra $60 as an option to the grip reduction) while everyone else stipples all the way around). Does not include rounding the trigger guard, which is a $40 option. Beavertail is a $150 option.
    http://www.bowietacticalconcepts.com/

    Bar-Sto
    Quotes a turn around time of “5-7 days”, WOW!! That’s fast!! Starts at $145. I found no info on what exactly this includes or what options are available.
    http://www.barsto.com/grip_reduction.cfm

    Defensive Edge
    No info listed on their site. I only heard of them doing grip reductions from a customer who posted about it in a thread here on GT
    http://www.defensiveedge.net/

    Advanced Performance Shooting
    $150 for the front and back plus more. A fake 1911 safety lever in the off position can be added (a unique/exclusive option) as a place for the thumb to go to help with your grip as a $65 stand alone item or for $50 as an add on to a grip reduction. Rounding of the triggerguard is no extra cost but is by request only.
    http://www.advancedperformanceshooti...st_page18.html

    Cylinder & Slide
    Starts at $90 dollars for the back only but they say that grip reduction services of any kind require cerami-kote coating service and that costs $200 and they won’t do a grip reduction without it (I think this might be a typo). I could not find what the cerami-kote cost in conjunction with the grip reduction. Removal of the finger grooves is $44 as is rounding the trigger guard. Stippling of the front strap is a separate item that cost approximately $40 per section (front, back, or both sides). http://www.cylinder-slide.com/glock27.shtml

    Ross Sporting Goods
    Starts at $125 for the front and back plus more. Rounding the trigger guard is a $25 option. Stippling is an extra charge. Other services available as options. Adding a channel or groove for the trigger finger on the side is a $35 option (and a unique/exclusive one).
    http://www.rosssportinggoods.com/612600.html

    I would like to get feedback on the following...

    Price: Cheapest vs. most expensive.

    Quality: Worst vs. best.

    Price to Quality Ratio: Opinions welcomed.

    Smallest Reduction: Who has the smallest circumference, and, as a separate issue, who has the shortest trigger reach.

    Package Deals: Who has the best package deals and what does it included?

    Unique Details: Is there something that one does that no one else does? For example I noticed Cylinder & Slide offers a small dished out area for the mag release. Another company offers an actual channel grooved into the side of the frame for the trigger finger to lay in to reduce trigger reach.

    Speed of Service: Fastes vs. Slowest.

    Quality of Service: Customer care.
     
  20. Atlas

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    I recently did the hump reduction to a G19 using heat.
    Bowtie and others here had done this successfully, and I decided to give it a try. I am very happy I did this!

    I did slightly deform the molded-in checkering on the surface, but this for me is only cosmetic. When I get time I will sand the backstrap area smooth, then maybe use a soldering-iron to do some light stippling there.

    I have little-girl-sized hands. Before the reduction, when dry-firing I could not avoid pulling to one side when I pulled the trigger. Now the gun fits my hand as if it were made for me.

    I couldn't care less about resale value. If you told me the resale had now dropped to 50 cents I wouldn't give it a thought. I needed a G19. I wanted a G19. I have no intention to ever sell it.

    I'm a long way from home for the near future and the G19 is the only Glock I have with me. When I return home I will do this reduction on my G23 and probably my G36 as well.
     
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