Carbon vs Stainless Steel

Discussion in 'The Cutting Edge' started by pugman, Mar 11, 2014.

  1. pugman

    pugman

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    As a present, I'm looking at getting my BIL a new knife. He spends a lot of time outdoors and am looking at the usual suspects like Swamp Rat, Fallkniven, Glock's field knife, the BK2, ESEE, etc. My plan includes a custom leather sheath from some place like Hedgehog Leather Works or Sagewood.

    http://www.hedgehogleatherworks.com/

    http://www.sagewoodgear.com/BK2_Sheaths_s/1815.htm

    I know Carbon sharpens "easier" and stainless is more rust "resistance" and a little TLC can go a long way but I'm reading alot how SR101 rusts like "crazy". I even read one post where a guy claimed he bought a knife and in the time is shipped across country the guy's fingerprints rusted the blade.

    Has anyone ever had a knife actually surface rust or even pit although you cared for it properly?
     
  2. cheygriz

    cheygriz God Bless Trump

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    There are several dozen types of carbon steel, and over a hundred types of stainless.

    In either category, you can get outstanding quality, and pure junk.

    Of the brands you mentioned, Fallkniven is an excellent company, and ALL of their knives are good quality.

    Carbon steels generally do not rust if properly cared fro, and they are not necessarily easy to sharpen.

    Quality stainless steel is rust resistant, not rust proof.

    I assume from the knives you listed you are interested in a fixed blade, not a folder. There are several companies that make nothing but quality blades, both carbon and stainless.

    Falllkniven and Bark River Knife and Tool come to mind. Spyderco and Benchmade, of course, although their fixed blade selection is very limited.

    Take a really hard look at the Bark River Games-keeper in 4V steel. Beautiful, functional, and extreme high quality. One of my favorites for a fixed blade.

    http://www.knivesshipfree.com/bark-river-knives/?sort=alphaasc
     
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  3. RWBlue

    RWBlue Mr. CISSP, CISA CLM

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    Yep..

    It really depends on what you want to do with a knife.

    If you want to beat a knife to split wood, then you need a carbon steel blade.

    If you plan on having your knife get wet and stay wet, you will want stainless. This is especially true if you want play in salt water.

    Now, I am currently in love with some super steel knives. I use them for everything.
     
  4. pugman

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    And those are?

    My problem is there are no dealers anywhere near me which handle any of the knives I'm considering (CheyGriz Bark River is on this list). If possible, I would like to avoid the whole buy it and return it thing if it doesn't feel right. (Full Disclosure: I told Mrs Pugman this is a gift but most likely I'm buying two....one for the BIL and one for a future gift...if it so happens to get used so be it :supergrin:)

    Depending on nice I am...I might get a Busse. Its something he would never buy himself.
     
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  5. hunter 111

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    People over think this knife stuff
    Buy a Buck and be happy
     
  6. RWBlue

    RWBlue Mr. CISSP, CISA CLM

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    I am not looking for a short sword. I wanted a good solid folder.

    I bought a Kershaw D2/composite
    [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Kershaw-1660CB-Stainless-Steel-Composite-two-tone/dp/B0017KN4MS"]Amazon.com: Kershaw Leek Knife with Sandvik 1660CB Stainless-Steel/CPM-D2 Composite two-tone Stainless-Steel Blade: Sports & [email protected]@[email protected]@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/[email protected]@[email protected]@21Up9-ek72L[/ame]
    Mine is prettier than photoed. It is small and dressy enough for me to wear with a suit.

    I bought a couple Spyderco knives. Manix and Manix2. The Manix is in Carpenter Steel. The Manix 2 is BD1. They stay sharp and don't rust.

    The knives mentioned in the first post are much larger. I don't see the need to carry a knife that large.
     
  7. RWBlue

    RWBlue Mr. CISSP, CISA CLM

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    Having used a Buck, I will UN-recommend it. It is a pain to get sharp and it doesn't stay sharp. I don't understand why they don't change the steel they use and make their knives better.
     
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    cheygriz God Bless Trump

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    I've never been able to find a Buck that will hold an edge worth a darn. They're not bad for an "el cheapo" knive, but you get what you pay for.
     
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    Right now I am looking at a Benchmade Bushcrafter
    Blade Length: 4.43"
    Blade Thickness: 0.164"
    Handle Thickness: 0.920"
    Blade Material: S30V Stainless Steel
    Blade Hardness: 58-60HRC
    Blade Style: High Ground Drop-Point
    Weight: 7.72oz.
    http://www.benchmade.com/products/162
    It looks like a good outdoor knife