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carbon 15 vs. regular ar 15

Discussion in 'Black Rifle Forum' started by Mike M., Jul 30, 2011.

  1. Mike M.

    Mike M.

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    im wanting to buy an ar15 or carbon15 in the near future but i dont know alot about them yet and im wanting to start getting into them and someday build one... the sole purpose of this first gun will be just messing around and some target shooting, im not into competition or hunting or anything crazy i just want a "fun gun" and to get familiar with the rifle. Im kind of leaning towards the carbon for the extra "cool" factor and ive never known anyone with one or seen one in person... just wondering what you experts think. i hope to hear alot from you and alot of feedback......
     
  2. boomhower

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    They are junk. They aren't carbon fiber, just polymer. A polymer lower would be ok for a 22 build but I would use one on an AR of regular caliber. If you want a cheap range gun look at the smith sport model. It doesn't have any tacticool features but it's a solid range gun for dirt cheap.
     

  3. GSSF17

    GSSF17 ...2 of 'em

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    I bought one of the new production Bushmaster Carbon 15 rifle for my wife, and I liked it so much, I bought us a pistol as well.

    For target shooting/plinking, they are a lot of fun and hard to beat. They'll eat the 55 gr .223 from Wal mart like candy.

    These folks that say these are 'junk' are the same kinda folks that called Glocks "plastic junk" when they came out. No references, just a blindly-formed opinion spewed on the internet. If someone can show me an actual reason why these are such "junk", I'll be glad to pay it some deserved attention. Until then, I have over 1k rounds through the rifle, and several hundered rounds through the pistol. Buds has the rifles back in stock for 699. There's a reason they are so popular.

    Good luck!
     
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  4. M&P15T

    M&P15T Beard One

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    Oh, you'll get feedback alright.

    Hang on, this might get ugly!:rofl:
     
  5. ColdBlooded

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    Go with an S&W M&P 15 Sport. Same or better price, and a great value. It is the perfect plinking rifle. The only problem is finding one in stock. I know Cabela's has some, but they are currently selling for retail. You can do better.

    Take a look at it here:

    http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/default.aspx?item=811036
     
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  6. javelinadave

    javelinadave Hebrew Hammer

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    A Cav Arms lower mated with a quality A3 upper and a light weight barrel will yield a very light weight, durable rifle. I built one for my daughter when she was younger. Tens of thousands of rounds later and it still functions flawlessly.
    I'm not sure of the durability of the plastic uppers but the Cav Arms lower is pretty freaking durable.
     
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    Why is it that more often than not "I'm new to ARs" and "I'm thinking about getting a carbon15" appear in the same post?
     
  8. boomhower

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    [​IMG]

    CavArms would be the only plastic lower I would consider.
     
  9. CarryTexas

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    Standard Carbine Kit $479.00
    Stripped Lower $79.95

    Shipping and Transfers fees $35.00
    Total $593.95

    This is for a mil-spec carbine MPI\HPT, Chrome lined etc...
     
  10. vafish

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    That's not a Bushmaster Carbon 15, that's a Vulcan polymer lower receiver.

    Do a Google search for an image of a broken Carbon 15 receiver and that same picture is all that shows up as an actual broken receiver.

    Because the Carbon 15 is an inexpensive rifle compared to most other AR15's.

    Someone who is new to AR15's and just wants a plinking gun looks on their dealers shelf and sees a $600 Carbon 15 (Buds has them for $588 shipped) next to a $1,200 Colt and they don't see a difference. So they go to the internet to find out. They don't understand they could build a real AR15 with good parts for just a few dollars more.
     
  11. GSSF17

    GSSF17 ...2 of 'em

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    Yep. :thumbsup:

    The OP asked for the opinion on the rifles, not the cost advantages of an AR build. These threads always seem to take that turn. That's not what he wants.

    And while I am not "new" to ARs by any shake, I can understand that it is appealing to a guy that wants a known brand, off the shelf rifle he can shoot the same day- and in my case, whose wife likes the light weight and "feel". That was all I needed. She loves the Carbon 15.

    For those that want to think that lower pictured above is a Bushmaster Carbon 15, go ahead. It's obvious someone may not get the "picture." You can lead a horse to water....:upeyes:
     
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    I know it's not a Bushy lower. Whether Vulcan, Bushy, or Plum Crazy; they are all still a plastic lower. For just a coule $$'s more you can have a quality lower. The Smith Sport would be perfect for the OP and can be had for $600 quite regularly.
     
  13. Javelin

    Javelin Got Glock? Silver Member

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    I am not sure why you would want to go with a polymer AR lower when most in the industry (such as Larue, Noveske, etc) are actually beefing up the AR lowers.

    I would hold out for a little bit more and get a new forged Noveske Gen II lower if it were me.

    :wavey:
     
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    Show me pictures of a Bushmaster Carbon 15 broken like the Vulcan.

    I did a Google search and couldn't find any.

    So I don't think Bushmaster Carbon 15 needs to be put in the same group as a Vulcan plastic receiver.
     
  15. fnfalman

    fnfalman Chicks Dig It

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    I find it utterly hilarious that Mattel Toy owners are trying to say that a bit more plastic is bad for the gun.

    My Mattel Toy is a true Mattel Toy with plastic receiver and all. It still chucks lead downrange. It's cheap & light just like the original AR.

    [​IMG]
     
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    12131 Monkeyboy CLM

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    There's a reason the Carbon-15 is not widely popular, and the regular AR15 is.
     
  17. Mike M.

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    thanks guys, im not so sure about the carbon anymore but id like to look into the cav arms lower to put on a regular ar... the main thing is i want something none of my buddies have already, they have varying branded ars and all that some have add ons but im also looking to keep a very clean and sleek appearance (like the carbon 15)
     
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    Palmetto State Armory middy build kit - $499
    LRB/Aero lower - $80-89
    That is a FAR better option that ends up being cheaper.
     
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    Different and sleek makes me think billet. Not cheap, but certainly will get what you are after without having a plastic lower.
     
  20. fnfalman

    fnfalman Chicks Dig It

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    Because the cool operators don't use them?