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Can the Secret Service tell you to "SHUT UP"?

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Padre, Mar 19, 2012.

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  1. Padre

    Padre

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    Something about this just doesn't seem right...

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/03/15/can-secret-service-tell-to-shut-up/?intcmp=spotlight

    ...Last week, President Obama signed into law the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011. This law permits Secret Service agents to designate any place they wish as a place where free speech, association and petition of the government are prohibited. And it permits the Secret Service to make these determinations based on the content of speech.
    Thus, federal agents whose work is to protect public officials and their friends may prohibit the speech and the gatherings of folks who disagree with those officials or permit the speech and the gatherings of those who would praise them, even though the First Amendment condemns content-based speech discrimination by the government....
     
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    I think this is illegal unless it is an amendment.
     

  3. Padre

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    My thoughts exactly....
    If you are saying things that they don't like, they can prohibit your rights under the First Amendment.
    If you are saying things favoring the Government, then they can allow, even promote, your speech.
     
  4. ubimow

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    EXACTLY! This is why we have The Constitution in the first place, so some azzhat doesn't just get to make up his own rules and deny people their freedom! :steamed:

    But apparently the govt can do whatever it wants and get away with it. Who's going to stop them. We are only as free as the guys in washington allow us to be.
     
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    Rabbi The Bombdiggity Lifetime Member

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    I am not an expert on this at the Federal level but I (and many other LEO) tell people to stop speaking and if we must, force them to do so all the time...at of all places, government meetings.

    People have the right to peaceful assembly and freedom of speech. What they dont have is the right to disrupt a meeting or procession nor do they have the right to "fighting words" (that cause or would cause an immediate breach of peace)
     
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    Oh the irony in that the call "to arms!!" at Lexington & Concord would be considered "fighting words" today. :whistling:

    :supergrin:
     
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    The Secret Service will do to you as they wish, Constitution be damned.
     
  8. KING-PIN

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    Anyone can tell anyone anything.

    :wavey:
     
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    freedom is really not free. This no different than the Oakland shooting and public outcry and the law forcing the cellphone service out during the rally.

    Or a bunch of anti-war groups lining up on a dead solider funeral route.

    So if we are really free to protest our gov, how can the gov really tell us no way, not here, or take it elsewhere ? Are we really free to exercise our 1st ammendment rights?
     
  10. CAcop

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    The courts have ruled time, place, and manner restrictions are reasonable.

    I suspect this codifies what the practice of the feds has been during political party conventions. Also the upcoming G8 summit is supposed to be bad.
     
  11. paynter2

    paynter2 It ain't over Millennium Member

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    You are exercising your 1st amendment right as you type.
     
  12. zoyter2

    zoyter2 Yeah, so what?

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    You got that right! But enough about the 7 mile "no park/no protest" zone around his ranch at Crawford Texas. :supergrin:
     
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    Jbar4Ranch B-Western Hero Millennium Member

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    How about Westboro Baptist Church protesting with "God hates fags", "Pray for more dead soldiers", etc., while the police stand by?
     
  14. ca survivor

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    If Obama wins again it will be beatings and jail time, if you speak against the government
     
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  15. DScottHewitt

    DScottHewitt EMT-B

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    I think the "law" Barry Osama just signed is a little different from stopping someone from yelling "FIRE" in a crowded theatre when there is not a clear and present danger that a fire is really there.....


    Maybe......


    Scott
     
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    DScottHewitt EMT-B

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    Not really. Eric owns this site. {A private citizen.} Eric and his Mods have EVERY legal right to restrict what is said and posted here. They are not part of the government, which the Bill of Rights applies to.....



    Scott
     
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    paynter2 It ain't over Millennium Member

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    Your post is still up. :wavey:
     
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    I don't think they have carried any signs {YET} that say "KILL ALL FAGS" or "KILL A SOLDIER TO PLEASE GOD". That is a direct incitement to violent action.
     
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    This should make the presidential debates interesting.

    Secret service can just arrest Mitt (whoever) if Obama doesn't like what he is saying. :upeyes:
     
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    DScottHewitt EMT-B

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    Because the Mods or Eric did not {YET} remove it. But they have every right to do so at any time. The First Amendment is {SUPPOSED} to limit the government, not private property. This is Eric's "house"
     
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