Can I carry "vacation"

Discussion in 'California Glockers' started by cmysprks, Aug 30, 2007.

  1. cmysprks

    cmysprks

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    at pismo state beach camp grounds. Im taking a famly trip to pismo for 3 days we are going to stay at the camp sites is it legal for me to carry I have my ccw. any help would be great thanks in advance
     
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    zeppe807 Always Prepared

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    I think that as long as it stays in your trailer/motor home/tent, you can because those are considered Temporary Residences. But I am not sure because it is a state park. Call and find out.
     

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    My understanding is that to be considered a temporary residence, your motorhome needs to be hooked up to electrical, water, and sewer if available. Otherwise, it remains a "vehicle," not a house.


    I've camped in most California State Beach Parks, and the only park whose literature I've seen that declares "firearms (loaded or unloaded)are NOT permitted within the State Park Boundaries" is San Onofre. Of course, the others may figure that prohibition is so obvious, it does not even need to be stated. For a definite answer, you can probably call the reservation number, 1-800-444-7275.

    If you don't brandish it, it's doubtful your camp would ever be searched for a gun. And if you ever had to use it, the legal sanctions are probably preferable to being dead. With that said, my gun always remains in the motorhome; exclusively for "repelling boarders." When walking in the park, I rely on my pepper spray, collapsible baton, and pitbull on a leash.

    LOVE Pismo, because it is long, wide, very uncrowded, and dogs (on leashes,) are allowed on the beach.

    Just be discrete, and HAVE FUN.
     
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    Ummm...

    In CA, carrying a collapsible baton is a felony. PC 12020.

    In CA, only LEOs and permitted uniformed security guards on duty can legally carry batons/collapsible batons. PC 12002.
     
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    Wow, I didn't know that. When did they pass that one?

    Guess I'll have to just carry a nice, heavy walking stick. Or did those become illgal too?
     
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    ummmm,you also forgot to mention you can take your 4 wheel drive out for a walk on the beach too!
     
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    "Any person over the age of 18 who is not prohibited from possessing firearms, and if otherwise lawful, may keep and carry a firearm or have a firearm loaded at his or her place
    of residence, temporary residence, campsite, or on private property owned or lawfully possessed by the person. (Penal Code §§ 12026, 12031(h)

    (l).) Any person engaged in any lawful business (including nonprofit organizations) or any officer, employee, or
    agent authorized for lawful purposes connected with the business may possess a loaded firearm within the place of business if that person is over 18 years of age and not otherwise prohibited from possessing firearms. (Penal Code §§ 12026, 12031(h).)

    NOTE: A person’s place of business, residence, temporary residence, campsite, or private property may be located in areas where possession of handguns or other firearms, whether loaded or unloaded, is otherwise prohibited. Such areas include, but are not limited to, state, federal, or private game reserves or refuges, federal and state parks, and other public lands. Questions regarding the applicability of such laws should be directed to your sheriff or chief of police, federal or state fish and game officers, or federal or state park ranger."

    This is a quote from the CA-DOJ. As you can see, you can Carry (open or concealed) in a campsite (this means your individual site, not the entire campground, but it isn't limited to your tent or RV). However if you Camp within the State Park itself, according to this State Parks website, loaded firearms are prohibited. I would call the Ranger at Oceano Dunes SVRA (Pismo) and explain that you plan on camping at the Park and know California law allows loaded firearms in campsites and wanted to know how that effected their rule on no loaded firearms. I suspect they will tell you your out of luck and can't have the loaded firearm, but who knows, perhaps they allow it in your campsite but not the rest of the park. I usually camp on Forest Service land here in Cali where having a firearm in your campsite isn't a problem.
     
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    Yes you can, although I believe it is pernitted only south of Grand Ave. Have done it several times for fun and practice. But remember, if you venture below the mean high tide line, it is strongly recommended that you very thoroughly hose off the undercarraige of your rig, to prevent salt damage. Not all that hard to accomplish, but you don't want to forget about it.

    Also, don't venture into water higher than your vehicle's air intake. Most of us know this, but the consequences would be so disastrous that it's worth repeating.
     
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    you know what Harbour?i've been going there since i was a kid,and no ,atter what i never get tired of seeing people go in water higher than their intake,and get swept away or sunk or whatnot.damn i love pismo!
     
  10. cmysprks

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    Thanks I guess I can carry at the camp ground its a state park

    My apologies for the delay-

    The California Department of Parks and Recreation through its legal section, has determined that CCR 4313 exempts the following:

    1) California Peace Officers who are otherwise permitted to carry firearms
    2) Honorably retired California Peace Officers with concealed weapons privileges
    3) Citizens with concealed firearms privileges

    Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

    Adrian E. Itaya

    California State Parks
    Public Safety Division

    (916) 651-0403