Can I beat a dead horse ?
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"Ionbond finish" is what we call a "marketing ploy" in this country. It's something that has absolutely no bearing as to the function of the item, but if you believe the marketing and buy the product, then it has achieved it's purpose.
Pick one of the two aforementioned AR's and buy one; or, buy both. They're pretty much the same and you won't be able to tell any difference. :faint:
Both great rifles.
I own 1 of each, but my BCM middy is my go to rifle.
I use a BCM upper and lower, and went with the standard
BCM bcg and I have been happy with it. It shoots great
and cleans up just fine.
Colt does not have a middy, just the carbine and full length.
I bought the BCM mid length hammer forged barrel upper.
If I had to do it over again the only thing I would do different is
to buy the standard barrel.
They offer the standard and hammer forged chrome lined 1/7 twist,
or the stainless 1/8 twist.
Unless you are scoping and want to shoot tighter groups with the
stainless, and are not shooting many thousand rounds a year in
competition, where the hammer forged may give a little longer life,
the standard barrel will serve you just fine and last as long.
I own 1 of each, but my BCM middy is my go to rifle.
I use a BCM upper and lower, and went with the standard
BCM bcg and I have been happy with it. It shoots great
and cleans up just fine.
Colt does not have a middy, just the carbine and full length.
I bought the BCM mid length hammer forged barrel upper.
If I had to do it over again the only thing I would do different is
to buy the standard barrel.
They offer the standard and hammer forged chrome lined 1/7 twist,
or the stainless 1/8 twist.
Unless you are scoping and want to shoot tighter groups with the
stainless, and are not shooting many thousand rounds a year in
competition, where the hammer forged may give a little longer life,
the standard barrel will serve you just fine and last as long.
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Thanks for the reply. This is exactly the info i look for on here.
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Both are top shelf, but BCM gets my vote because I'd prefer a middy. A CHF barrel may last a bit longer, but a standard barrel lasts a long time anyway. Even stainless barrels last longer than people think. Ion bonded bcg may clean easier, I haven't had any trouble cleaning my standard f/a bcg's so I've never felt the need try one. I wouldn't put myself out to get it. I'd definitely rather the CHF barrel than an Ion Bonded bolt, as the barrel's going to last the longest of the two. If you shoot a lot you'll end up replacing the bolt at some point anyway. If it's well within your budget for the rifle and you want the enhancements it won't hurt either, but neither is necessary.
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Stainless barrels last around 10 to 15 K depending on use and care. A normal chrome lined bore should be good for 20 to 25. A cold hammer forged barrel will last much longer. Noveske says 50K. Stainless is great for applications that need sub moa. But for all other applications I would say get the Cold Hammer Forged.
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I like Colt, I've owned quite a few Colt uppers and they've never done me wrong.
I do own a BCM bolt on a parts gun and it's nice and works.
I don't think you'll hate either one.
As for the dead horse, I like to wait till it's so bloated the legs are sticking up and it looks like a marsmellow with 4 toothpicks jutting out. Then I find something large and just heavy enough so I can barely lift it over my head without my arms caving in. Then I take aim, I like the area right around where the belly button is/was. And let gravity do the rest! A little poof will follow, and when you see your mom, girlfriend, boyfriend or whom ever you go home to, you can say.. "That, That my friend is the smell of victory!"
I do own a BCM bolt on a parts gun and it's nice and works.
I don't think you'll hate either one.
As for the dead horse, I like to wait till it's so bloated the legs are sticking up and it looks like a marsmellow with 4 toothpicks jutting out. Then I find something large and just heavy enough so I can barely lift it over my head without my arms caving in. Then I take aim, I like the area right around where the belly button is/was. And let gravity do the rest! A little poof will follow, and when you see your mom, girlfriend, boyfriend or whom ever you go home to, you can say.. "That, That my friend is the smell of victory!"
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I own a Colt and its a great gun. But considering the many options that BCM offers as well as their warranty I would have to recommend them over Colt.
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I got to "fam fire" a BCM 14.5" middy today and it was noticeably softer shooting than my N4 Recce (16"). Shouldn't make any sense I don't think but it was noticeable. I'd go with that setup. (incl a permanent flash suppressor to make 16.1").
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so does it really matter if i get a bcm lower to go with my bcm upper ? i want to make sure the finish will match. i know that sounds cheesey but i like my guns to look as good as they shoot. give me some examples of your guns as far as which uppers & lower's you use and how well they work together.
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Nothing wrong with wanting your gun to look good and match. That is why I bought a Noveske lower. I had the upper and had built a Saber lower up for it. But eventually I wanted it to match so I got a Noveske lower and a Saber upper for the Saber lower.
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