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Can I be Sure?

Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by Romadoc, Aug 30, 2005.

  1. Romadoc

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    I right clicked on Recycle Bin to remove all items. What I should like to know is if there is a way to be certain these items are not hiding somewhere on my disc?
     

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  4. Romadoc

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    Disc Investigator only yields a batch of digits. How do I get English language result?
     
  5. HerrGlock

    HerrGlock Scouts Out CLM

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    Do you want to get into forensics? That's where you're headed.

    Yes, it's fun as hell but it's also a LOT of drudgery.

    DanH
     
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    Digital forensics? Sounds fun but out of my pay-grade. :)
     
  7. MrsKitty

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    Actually, I might find that interesting...but what degrees would that require?
     
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    until they are overwritten with new data, they most certainly are "hiding" on your disc. emptying the recycle bin, merely allows them to be overwritten by the operating system.

    are you trying to recover them or are you trying to prevent their recovery?
     
  9. HerrGlock

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    None, really, if you know what you're doing.

    SANS track 8 is forensics or used to be anyway. If you ever want to make your ears bleed but learn more than you ever thought possible in a week, take a SANS course.

    DanH
     
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    The secret: "if you know what you're doing."

    Maybe one day :)
     
  11. MtBaldy

    MtBaldy Obie Wan, RIP

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    Windows does not really erase files, it just marks the space on the disk as available. The data remains there until Windows needs to use the space to store other files then it overwrites the data there. The question is: Who is going to be looking for those files and why? If it's the NSA and they believe urgent national security related data is on it there is no way to really be sure the data won't be found. If it's your wife or a private investigator using off the shelf software then maybe one of the disk wipe utilities that use DOD protocols will work. The only way to be absolutely certain data can't be recovered off a HD is to physically destroy the platters then bury the pieces in widely separated locations.
     
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    Sledgehammer the hard drive!