close

Privacy guaranteed - Your email is not shared with anyone.

California, and the nation, is doubly screwed

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Drjones, Nov 8, 2012.

  1. Drjones

    Drjones

    Messages:
    6,157
    Likes Received:
    54
    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2002
    Location:
    CA, just outside the United States
    Don't recall seeing any discussion here about how the dems in CA seem to have secured a 2/3 supermajority in both state houses, meaning they are utterly free to do whatever the heck they want.

    It's long been an unfortunate fact that the worst ideas here in CA act as templates for the rest of the nation so...pray for the big one to hit the San Andreas, I guess....
     
  2. 427

    427

    Messages:
    6,997
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2009
    Location:
    KUMSC
    Super majorities in both houses!? Dude. Get out while you can.
     

  3. RichJ

    RichJ

    Messages:
    3,959
    Likes Received:
    9
    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2009
    How has this gone unreported?

    This is HUGE. :wow:
     
  4. Batesmotel

    Batesmotel

    Messages:
    16,497
    Likes Received:
    4,337
    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2007
    Location:
    Utah
    I predict a mass exodus from California.

    It may be for reasons other than people think.

    Lets just say a little birdie told me so.

    HAVE YOUR PREPS IN ORDER!

    I trust me little bird.
     
  5. fastbolt

    fastbolt

    Messages:
    14,592
    Likes Received:
    6,857
    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2002
    Location:
    CA Central Coast
    California contains more than 12% of the nation's population. (Second largest by land mass, but first in population.)

    That's significant.

    One state maintained record I found a couple years ago (and then lost the link) showed consistent population growth since that record was started in 1940. Granted, the population demographics might have fluctuated over that time, but the basic numbers grew each year (ranging from .5 - 2%).

    BTW, this achieving a super majority hasn't gone unreported, as there's been a few articles which mention it here (although there's probably little reason for it to be noted and discussed outside the state).
     
  6. JBnTX

    JBnTX

    Messages:
    22,847
    Likes Received:
    9,176
    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2008
    We need to build a wall around Texas before the California refugees get here.
     
  7. CombatCamera

    CombatCamera

    Messages:
    630
    Likes Received:
    430
    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2011
    Location:
    Columbia, TN
    Just let me in first JBnTX!!
     
  8. Flying-Dutchman

    Flying-Dutchman

    Messages:
    6,582
    Likes Received:
    1,276
    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2007
    As goes California, so goes the Nation.

    Notice proposition 30 was passed that increased taxes on those making over $250K but not the proposition that increased taxes for everyone.

    Tax increase for thee but not for me.
     
  9. fastbolt

    fastbolt

    Messages:
    14,592
    Likes Received:
    6,857
    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2002
    Location:
    CA Central Coast
    The income tax increase for the "wealthy" isn't the only tax increase in that proposition. The quarter cent sales tax increase affects everyone who buys things.

    I've always wondered why the $250K earnings floor became the threshold figure for being "wealthy". Why not $500K, or $1M? How many potential earners are contained within those different brackets?

    I never reached the $200K annual income point (not ever wishing to work that much OT), but I've known a lot of folks who earned $200-$250K annually, and they certainly aren't "wealthy". Not with the cost of living in many places in CA, especially in the greater SF Bay Area.
     
  10. Restless28

    Restless28

    Messages:
    16,152
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2008
    Location:
    Solsbury Hill
    Yep. It's coming.
     
  11. frank4570

    frank4570

    Messages:
    15,508
    Likes Received:
    13
    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2004
    I get how this goes. The voting majority wants the govt to take care of them. So as things get worse, they vote in more and more people who promise to give them free stuff.

    "You poor sad children deserve better. That rich guy doesn't need all that money he has. He doesn't care about your suffering. Vote for me and I will find a way to take money away from that rich guy and give you free stuff so you don't have to worry about."

    And then things get worse again and they scream "Please take care of us! Tell us it will be ok and we don't have to worry about anything!"
     
  12. Glock20 10mm

    Glock20 10mm Use Linux!

    Messages:
    15,535
    Likes Received:
    1,262
    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2005
    Location:
    Land of Idiots and Libtards
    We're screwed... unless we can find a solid leadership and repeat 1776 on a national scale.
     
  13. Carrys

    Carrys Inquisitive

    Messages:
    13,123
    Likes Received:
    6
    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2006
    Location:
    Green Country
    They hope to get the Fedral Govt to bail them out............and they will. Even more of our milk will go to the free milk drinkers there.

    I wonder how long our milk cows will put out, eh?





    That's why I'm not giving to the Sandy Storm victims this time around. They wanted big govt........they got it.


    FEMA offices closed due to the weather, only the govt can make me laugh this much.






    I believe we will.

    Don't know when and don't think it will be while I'm still alive.

    But it will. The pendulum always swings both ways. When our society finally sees what it's doing to it's self.....it will eliminate the drinkers like the infection they are.
     
  14. Mr981

    Mr981

    Messages:
    2,511
    Likes Received:
    558
    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2000
    Location:
    N. Central OH
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/08/usa-campaign-california-idUSL1E8M7NDL20121108

    The WSJ has a large article on this.

    As one that has seen what happens when one party has a stranglehold on a large county in our state--Cuyahoga--those of you in CA have my sympathy.

    You can look forward to more taxes--big time--and a completely cooked political system where the state judiciary will protect or look the other way from the hi-jinx that the Dems will be able to pull for years.

    Once one party has it's hands on all the levers of power, democracy stops.

    It is my sincere hope that where CA is going, they end up there by their own hand, with the Feds not intervening financially to bail them out.

    Instead of the Prius being the hot new vehicle in the state, it will be the moving van.
     
  15. CAcop

    CAcop

    Messages:
    22,644
    Likes Received:
    5,397
    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2002
    Location:
    California
    The punchline is that Gov. Moonbeam is considered a moderate now.
     
  16. cgwahl

    cgwahl Sheriffs a near

    Messages:
    6,816
    Likes Received:
    1,484
    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2002
    Location:
    CA
    So any bets on how long till Prop 13 goes bye bye?

    Also guessing the train to nowhere will be getting more funding.
     
  17. Cali-Glock

    Cali-Glock Mountain Man

    Messages:
    5,960
    Likes Received:
    656
    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2002
    Location:
    California Sierra Mnts
    The Democratic super majority in both houses of the California legislature spells out our doom.

    The democrats will be able to raise taxes without impunity, pass Veto-proof leftist crap that even Moonbeam would have otherwise vetoed.

    The holy grail however is Prop 13 which since 1978 has protected homeowners from being taxed out of their homes - the Democrats now have tha ability to do a run-around Prop 13, forcing retirees and other long term-homeowners out of the state.

    Despite the insanely high taxes California will hit her citizens with California will go bankrupt in a big and ugly way; making all prior financial crisis in out nation pale in comparison.

    Strap in and grab the hand rail kids: we are in for one heck of a ride!
     
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2012
  18. CAcop

    CAcop

    Messages:
    22,644
    Likes Received:
    5,397
    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2002
    Location:
    California
    If the Dems dump prop 13 that may be the one thing that will cause people to stop voting for them. Housing prices will plummet the minute prop 13 is repealed. I personally think it is why prices got so high here to begin with. If you know your takes can only go up 2% per year why not go for a more expensive house? If your taxes are at the whim of your local polticians why would you buy a more expensive house?
     
  19. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

    Messages:
    23,475
    Likes Received:
    8,317
    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2001
    California will be the western greece situation, requiring the rest of the "union" to bail them via federal taxes being sent to them disporportionally.
     
  20. 9jeeps

    9jeeps

    Messages:
    7,163
    Likes Received:
    2,535
    Joined:
    May 22, 2004
    Location:
    PNW
    You guys need to sell more fruits and nuts.