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Discussion in 'Black Rifle Forum' started by mhunter, Nov 12, 2011.
Is the $897 Bushmaster M4 carbine at Walmart a decent price on a decent AR style rifle?
In a word, no
I love my Bushmaster. It's not from walmart and its not popular on the internet.
Otherwise its awesome. But if you buy a Bushmaster and especially at Walmart, be prepared for lots of Internet bashing. Thankfully I could care less. Others may not.
I would handle the gun. Find out which model,type, features. I.E. 18" with flash spreader, flat top W/carry handle/rear sight, Chrome barrel (I think all Bushmaster are BUT Wally World is known for buying "one off" of well known items for cheap)
Part of the reason (I was told) is if they sell "Sony 37" model 30821" and you find Sony 37" model 30820 they don't have to price match. So just double check stuff. Make sure its 5.56 (or .223 if that what YOU want)
Take all info and compare online, at a gunshop. Thats the only way to know if you are getting a good deal (in your area)
I have seen similar ARs for $600 more then others. Just because of barrel, flat top, stock, front grip, (dust cover/none, forward assist/none).....
I recall seeing a DPMS for just over $600. Dressed out ones are closer to 2x that. (shoot same ammo, in 90% of folks they really won't notice much difference.
Risking another completely unhelpful M&P15T type smart *** post...
Can 5.56 be shot on a limited basis in a .223 rifle?
Nope......223 through a 5.56 is ok but you should not run 5.56 through the .223.........make sure the barrel is stamped 5.56 and you'll be fine.....and you can find them cheaper than that by looking around at the local gun stores or on some of the online sites.
It is made for any and all 5.56 ammo you wish to feed it.
You can build a good ar for about $700. Just do your research,
Was that a sarcastic or genuine comment?
Not sure if it was genuine or not, or sure what he meant, but 5.56 should not be fired unless the upper/barrel are marked for it.
Interesting. My Bushmaster has "CAL .223-5.56MM" stamped right on the receiver. HH
Right, so you can shoot either. Not all rifles are designed/stamped for both.
Your joking right?
Who cares what is on the receiver. What matters is how the barrel is chambered.
Your receiver was designed for either 223 or 556. heck none of my receiver say anything about caliber. Are you telling me that they can not shoot any caliber.
What's the difference? My Speer reloading manual lists both together (case dimensions, loads and bullets). They do mention barrel twists being an issue with bullet and load, but don't differentiate between .223 and 5.56. HH
As I understand it, you can fire .223 in a 5.56 gun but you can not fire 5.56 in a 223 chambered gun... I think the pressures are much higher in 5.56.
Edit: found a good link about this.
Thanks for the link! So, looks like my dilemma is solved. Buy a rifle chambered for 5.56 and have both bases safely covered. Just seems like the 5.56 rifles are either a lot more expensive or just not available. I'm basing that on the fact that I'm local to J&G Sales in Prescott, AZ and they just don't have a lot of 5.56 rifles in stock.
The local Wallyworld does have the Sig 556 in 5.56 for the same $897 price. Thoughts on that one? I seem to remember it not being very well liked, but I might be wrong.
Check out the S&W M&P Sport then. $600-ish and has everything needed for the average range shooter.