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build up on gun parts delikado ba?

Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by bertud ng putik, Mar 13, 2006.

  1. bertud ng putik

    bertud ng putik

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    may konting diperensya yung norinco ko, its with col. bayang right now, may tanong lang ako regarding build up, kasi pina chrome ko sya, install new f&r sight, adjust trigger pull. tapos ng iaasemble na nila, pagkinakasa nila yung hammer sumasama daw, according to our phone conversation, so they have to remedy something like mag build up sila or dagdag ng bakal sa may hammer, doon daw malapit sa sear kasi maikli daw yung hammer.

    so incase na maayos nila yon, ok ba na may build up na bakal sa hammer? or mas maigi na palitan ko na lang yung hammer and sear? worry lang ako kung tatagal yung pag build up nila pag pinuputok ko na yung norc ko. delikado ba ito mga gurus? pero alam ko tama yung ginagawa ni col bayang ha, ang habol ko lang ay kung tatagal ang pag build up or mas maganda parin na palitan ko na ng bago. according to my friend valor1, factory defect daw yung norinco ko kaya ganoon.

    at yung ang kanyang advice sa akin to replace the hammer and sear na lang para cgurado na walang aksidente at ok na uli ang norinco ko. any other suggestions? tnx!
     
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    replace it cheap insurance to full auto pistols;)
     

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    Just replace the hammer and the sear. Wont cost you much and you'll be staying safe too.
     
  4. infinitecolt

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    The hammer and sear are always subjected to friction and stress. They are key components for a good trigger job. The build-up is useless. Better get a new hammer and sear.

    It is possible that there is a factory defect. Norincos are sometimes a hit and miss on the small parts and even fittings.
     
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    i_am_infinity Pang Altar

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    yup...change it na lang. same thing happened to me i just replaced the sear now ok na :)
     
  6. isuzu

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    Better buy a new hammer and sear. I would not trust a build up. It may be fine for a couple of hundred of rounds, and who knows, it could go full auto.
     
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    build up on the mating parts of the sear and hammer is a very dangerous thing to do. the strength of the additional material may be as strong as the original but the point where they fused is oftentimes the break point if subjected to stress.

    it is better to replace the parts with new ones...
     
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    Building up on a part is pretty much the thing of the past particularly during the infancy of IPSC. Why bother welding it up if you can get an after market parts kahit na nga armscor lang. With welding(TIG) you are exposing the part in extreme heat. That processes might loose the heat treatment of the part which increases its wear and tear.;)
     
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    If you get a hammer and sear of the same brand, you could get a good trigger pull. The gunsmith also wouldn't have a hard time tuning your pistol to achieve a good trigger pull.

    I also bought a Wilson Combat 1911 pin set when I brought my Norinco to the gunsmith. Some pins of Norinco 1911s are somewhat loose, and that also could affect your pistol from having a consistent trigger pull.
     
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    bukod sa wilson and ed brown parts, what can you recommend me na skeletonize hammer and sear? medyo may kamahalan kasi yung wilson at ed brown eh. sa trust trade may norinco hammer and sear kaya na binebenta? tnx!
     
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    egw sear/ koenig hammer/ svi disconnector- my setup- 1.4 pound pull with svi titanium sear spring tri glide

    svi hammer and sear disconnector- my old setup

    sti hammer and sv sear - my older than old setup

    cylinder and slide setup- doc ec - highly recommended
     
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    You buy cheap parts, expect poor performance or durability. Get the better but more expensive brands like Wilson and Ed Brown but you also get quality, performance and durability. It also saves you the time on going back to the gunsmith to do the adustment again. The quality parts also give you peace of mind. You are replacing some critical parts remember? Ok?
     
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    My gunsmith recommends using CASPIAN hammer and sear...try trusttrade in MCS minsan meron dun eh...
     
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    is it really factory defect? that they have to do build up on hammer? what if diko sana pinagalaw trigger job? same thing will happen pa kaya?
     
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    Nangyayari ba yung "hammer follow" bago mo pina-trigger job kay Col Bayang? A "hammer follow" problem is normally a result of a poor trigger job. Na sobrahan siguro ng kikil. :supergrin:
     
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    Yes, I was wondering about the same thing. Na-gunsmith na ba yung Nork bago ibinigay kay Col. Bayang?
     
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    no, 1st time kay col. bayang. pina hard chrome ko and trigger pull. tsk tsk tsk! wrong timing naman! sa akin pa nangyari iyon. cguro nga nasobrahan ng kikil! dapat pala di ko na pina trigger job. laki abala tuloy, bibili pa ako ng hammer at sear ngayon.

    i have no problems with my gun before eh. sila ang may sabi na nag hahammer follow, kaya medyo natagalan tuloy sa kanila baril ko. its with me right now kaso diko pa naipuputok ulit, kasi i have to buy pa parts.
     
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    kasama pa nga sa trabaho yung zero of sight, kasi nagpa install ako ng wilson sight sa kanila. nakalimutan naman nilang e-zero. (kahit bayad na), kaso since na wala pa akong new hammer at sear, diko maipa zero sa kanila, mahirap na at baka bumigay ang baril. wait muna ako sa bago kong hammer at sear. laking abala at kalungkutan para sa akin. :(