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I am sure many of you read my rookie question thread.
In response I have started this thread.
Reasons to bring someone back to your car (pros):
-You get to pat them down, You'll do a better pat down when your safety directly counts on it.
-Easier to smell the odor of alcoholic beverages from the driver.
-You take them out of their comfort zone.
-We have a camera to record what they do and say.
-You get them out of their car where they may have weapons.
-You get them away from the other people in their car
--who may talk the driver into doing something stupid
--who may be worried about their warrant (KS has some bad case law that we cannot talk to the passengers unless we have RS they have committed a crime, but BG's don't know that)
--Other occupants are less likely to shoot back at you if they may hit their friend
-Less time spent outside your vehicle, leaving them to get hit by a car instead of you <non pc version.
-You can keep them from making phone calls and getting their friends to show up (this is a big issue around here)
-The longer people sit in your car the more likely they are to tell you the truth, get caught in a lie, tell you stuff to fill the quiet time. They will talk to you instead of festering in their car.
-Cover officer can stand at the rear passenger side quarter panel and be seen by contact officer, but not the suspect. Also a good position to do an extract or head shot.
Reasons to leave them in their car (cons):
-You are in arms reach of one another
-You don't get a second or third look at the inside of the car, of course you can if you want to.*
-You don't get to check on the other occupants (You can back your patrol unit up some to combat this)
-If they run(on foot), you already have a car between the two of you which you have to run around.
-You have to get them back out to cuff and search; usually we have backup by this time if we planned accordingly.
I'm sure you guys will come up with many more. I digress, for now.
Issues and how I have combatted them
-I use an earpiece attached to my portable radio, I turn the volume all the way down on the in-car. Many people around here keep scanners in their cars so bringing them back actually keeps more information from them.
-My gun, even though it's on the same side that are it is under the armrest. -I can easily access the knife in my left pocket.
-The equipment in the middle provides a decent barrier.
Bringing someone back to the patrol vehicle is not for everyone, officer or suspect. A bad feeling in your gut when you talk to someone is reason to keep as much distance as possible and wait for backup. It is not something I do every time, just an option I keep open.
I also keep some trash on the passenger side floor. It's amazing how a couple of bottles and some pieces of paper keep people interested for several minutes. Without it they just stare at you, but with it they usually get intrigued (especially, if they're under the influence). One Trooper keeps all of the PBT tubes on the passenger side floorboard to retard them getting good footing if they were to try to jump across the console. It really is hard to get good footing, but gross to keep all those germs in one place where you breath.
* One Deputy I know doesn't get their insurance until after he runs the DL. They usually go back on the passenger side of the offending vehicle offering a different view to the Deputy. Many people hide things between the door and passenger seat where it is hard to see from looking in either window, but when the door opens...
In response I have started this thread.
Reasons to bring someone back to your car (pros):
-You get to pat them down, You'll do a better pat down when your safety directly counts on it.
-Easier to smell the odor of alcoholic beverages from the driver.
-You take them out of their comfort zone.
-We have a camera to record what they do and say.
-You get them out of their car where they may have weapons.
-You get them away from the other people in their car
--who may talk the driver into doing something stupid
--who may be worried about their warrant (KS has some bad case law that we cannot talk to the passengers unless we have RS they have committed a crime, but BG's don't know that)
--Other occupants are less likely to shoot back at you if they may hit their friend
-Less time spent outside your vehicle, leaving them to get hit by a car instead of you <non pc version.
-You can keep them from making phone calls and getting their friends to show up (this is a big issue around here)
-The longer people sit in your car the more likely they are to tell you the truth, get caught in a lie, tell you stuff to fill the quiet time. They will talk to you instead of festering in their car.
-Cover officer can stand at the rear passenger side quarter panel and be seen by contact officer, but not the suspect. Also a good position to do an extract or head shot.
Reasons to leave them in their car (cons):
-You are in arms reach of one another
-You don't get a second or third look at the inside of the car, of course you can if you want to.*
-You don't get to check on the other occupants (You can back your patrol unit up some to combat this)
-If they run(on foot), you already have a car between the two of you which you have to run around.
-You have to get them back out to cuff and search; usually we have backup by this time if we planned accordingly.
I'm sure you guys will come up with many more. I digress, for now.
Issues and how I have combatted them
-I use an earpiece attached to my portable radio, I turn the volume all the way down on the in-car. Many people around here keep scanners in their cars so bringing them back actually keeps more information from them.
-My gun, even though it's on the same side that are it is under the armrest. -I can easily access the knife in my left pocket.
-The equipment in the middle provides a decent barrier.
Bringing someone back to the patrol vehicle is not for everyone, officer or suspect. A bad feeling in your gut when you talk to someone is reason to keep as much distance as possible and wait for backup. It is not something I do every time, just an option I keep open.
I also keep some trash on the passenger side floor. It's amazing how a couple of bottles and some pieces of paper keep people interested for several minutes. Without it they just stare at you, but with it they usually get intrigued (especially, if they're under the influence). One Trooper keeps all of the PBT tubes on the passenger side floorboard to retard them getting good footing if they were to try to jump across the console. It really is hard to get good footing, but gross to keep all those germs in one place where you breath.
* One Deputy I know doesn't get their insurance until after he runs the DL. They usually go back on the passenger side of the offending vehicle offering a different view to the Deputy. Many people hide things between the door and passenger seat where it is hard to see from looking in either window, but when the door opens...
