Bren Question

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  1. Zut

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    I have to know which is grammatically correct... Would you say a defendant “pled” guilty, or “pleaded” guilty?
     
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    "Pleaded" is grammatically correct as the past tense of plead;

    Having said that, "pled" has been in such wide use for so long that is generally accepted.....
     
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    Your lawyer will let you know, good luck!

    Randy

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    Pled is also correct.
     
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    Being a very old Englishman I would have to say pleaded.
     
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    Being out of Scotland sometime way back, I'd say "plead."
     
  8. Lord

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    Would you say "agreeded" or "agred"
    Neither. The past tense for "to agree" is "agreed".

    In this case, he gave a "plea" and therefore he "plead". In American English (which in my opinion is a little less intelligent than British English) words have a tendency to get changed or created based on laziness or lack of education. Hence that poor social experiment in California some time back called "Ebonics"
     
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    I just wanna axe a question dat I prolly don't no know answer two.

    don't gimme know lip, boy!
     
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    And here I thought this was a question about the British Bren light machine gun.
     
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    Or that Miami Vice pistol nobody could ever get magazines for....
     
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    Oh boy. I guess I'm in trouble because I always modify words to fit the situation, often spelling words how I actually pronounce them and in the context that I use them, in an animated sort of way, and it's not from a lack of edjimication, it's because I find the use of "proper" english, word pronunciation, and sentence structure to be 'boring as hell.

    I mean really, how can anyone effectively and accurately make a guy from Brooklyn, NY sound like he's from Brooklyn, NY using text unless you spell what he says something like this: "Hey gagootz, why you gotta' waste'a my time'a like 'dis, 'eh?? Dooooon't'a make'a me call up'a cousin Luigi and have'a you fit'a for'a pair'a cemente' shoes (laughter)!"
     
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    Quijibo King Doofus.

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    As long as ya don't axe yo muddah.
     
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    pleaded and pled are both accepted usages. I've been practicing law for 23 years, I use pleaded, most judges do too. Plea is a noun, plead is a verb, pleaded is the past tense. But nobody does an E.F. Hutton rubberneck double-take when someone says "pled." Would you get bent out of shape if someone said the recently wedded young couple were, "wed," instead?
     
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    how YOU dooin'?
     
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    Well sure, they're accepted far and wide. I was just answering on the proper of it.
    After sitting in on some trials, and talking about them later, I've often said "he pled not guilty" or similar.
     
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    No I meant as in dictionary accepted.

    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/plead?s=t

    I would have to dig in a bunch of crates to find the leather bound 100 year old "Oxford Usage Guide to the English Language" that I bought at a flea market in the 80's. It's chock full of proclamations on what is, "proper."
     
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    Yeah I know what you meant, so did I. The dictionary doesn't always only list what's proper. "ain't" was accepted a long time ago... as well as a racially charged word...
     
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  19. Zut

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    “sleeper” thread....