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breacher choke really needed ????

Discussion in 'Tactical Shotguns' started by dennis3dflyer, Mar 14, 2010.

  1. dennis3dflyer

    dennis3dflyer

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    Is a Breacher Choke really needed ? Increase Saftey or effect >???

    I see how it helps hold position on the area you wish to destroy but if you just hold off yourself a few inches from the area to be destroyed and have a steady hold will you have the same effect ???

    Thanks Dennis
     
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  2. grumpycoconut

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    Breaching stand offs are usefull tools but not absolutely essential. A good serrated stand off makes precision placement easier, keeps your muzzle on target and vents gas preventing a barrel blowout even if you had teh muzzle square on the target. If you are under stress and working fast and in the dark nothing is easier than jamming the muzzle stand off into the door / frame intersection and letting fly.
     

  3. aippi

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    No it is not.
     
  4. remat

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    Good answer!
    Just make sure leaving an offset space between the muzzle and the door...
     
  5. southernshooter

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    One of those would be handy. I can't remember all the times I have needed to breach a door with a shotgun. Seems like alot of junk would ricochet into your face when you do that. I just keep a spare key hidden since I not on the swat team.
     
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    They may be useful if you are doing a lot of breaching but myself, I just use the doorknob on my house. Can't really see myself breaching my way out of my house so for me, no, a breaching choke, barrel, pointy thingy on the end of my shotgun is about as useful as teats on a boar.
     
  7. Devils Haircut

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    "Yeah but what if...":upeyes:


    This thread makes me smile.
     
  8. bikerdog

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    Good answer. I would just like to ad, if your talking about the breaching choke tubes that are now being sold on the Remington 870. Their not real breaching tools. normal breaching tools are welded to the front of the barrel, what remington is selling would never hold up during real use.
     
  9. Syclone538

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    I would think that would be a liability issue unless they have a bunch of warnings all over the package/box the gun/choke comes in and on the choke itself. But I don't know, maybe they do.
     
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  10. bikerdog

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    I don't think there is to much liability, because when one of these fails it would probably just go down range. I,E no critical failure.
     
  11. DPris

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    Remington told me they don't consider those as actual breachers, they're there for looks.

    And- emphatically no, you do not need a breacher. :)
    Denis
     
  12. Syclone538

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    It's not going to go very far down range when it's up against a door, or are you thinking it will break apart at random while shooting at something farther away? I would think we would have heard about that by now.
     
  13. aippi

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    The Remington Tactical Choke or as we call the Rem Joke is of no value and only adds length to your weapon.
     
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  14. DPris

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    The one I tried did seem to offer some recoil reduction, I'm not entirely sure I'd say they're completely worthless. :)
    But, their inclusion on the package came from their marketing department, not from anything else.
    Denis
     
  15. Syclone538

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    Yeah I definitely agree that 99.9% of people have no use for a breacher, and those that do shouldn't use the rem tactical choke, but I just don't think Remington would have made it if it was much more dangerous then a real breacher when people try it.
     
  16. DPris

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    The "breacher" choke was added at the marketing department's suggestion, the threads are not intended to stand the pressures if used as a breacher.
    That's direct from Remington.
    Denis
     
  17. Syclone538

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    I understand that, but you know people are going to try it, and I'm sure Remington knows that too.
     
  18. DPris

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    Quite possibly people may try it, and I doubt it'll be a catastrophic failure if & when they do. It'll most likely be a one-try situation, after which those involved will know better.

    I don't imagine that choke'll be in the lineup for very much longer.
    You'll note you don't see it on any of the police-designated models.

    Denis
     
  19. B Coyote

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    But, but, but, but...

    It looks SO tacticool and will help me pick up the new girl at the pretzel store across from the piercing kiosk.

    :whistling:

    bc
     
  20. dualG22s

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    i personally only purchase weapons based on whatever football-bat idea they stick on it.breacher chokes....railsin every direction...pistol bayonets. all useful for "real" operators.



    see ya....i gotta go breech the fridge for a beer