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Blue Dot Warning

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by kazager, Jul 25, 2008.

  1. gary newport

    gary newport

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    Yeah, what do those guys at Alliant know anyway? :whistling:
     
  2. _The_Shadow

    _The_Shadow Ret. Fireman

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    You may want to check that 158 grain bullet loading over what you are recalling...16 grains of Blue Dot is a pile in the 357 magnum. I would think give or take a little, 10 or 11 grains to be near the maximum in that bullet weight.

    I would hate to see someone jump on that load you listed!
     

  3. Fastbear

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    Great night shot Highspeed. Been shooting new Glock 20 and wifes 29 with Blue Dot. Powder makes the guns perform quite well and the spent cases have no visable issues.:cool:
     
  4. sns3guppy

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    I've used blue dot for years. I got a good deal on it originally, and used it until it ran out...then got a good deal on high score 700X and used that. I'm not married to a powder or a load.
     
  5. 380Seecamp

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    My first handloading experience used Blue Dot in a .41 Magnum (price of ammo forced me to get into reloading). I've never had a problem with BD loads except for the excessive muzzle flash.

    There are too many other fine powders out there to continue to mess with BD. Once my current Lb. of BD is used up, I'm through with it.
     
  6. goldenlight

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    I've been loading Blue Dot for at least 30 years. I started with the 44 magnum (thanks to Dirty Harry...) and then with 357 later

    I used to buy boxes of 1000 or 2000 125gr. 357 jacketed soft point from Midway. Back in the good old days when they were cheap, and the shipping was free. :crying:

    I loaded almost all of the 125 gr. JSP with Blue Dot. My old Speer #9 manual lists 14.5gr of Blue Dot as max for the 125gr. slug. BUT that's with a regular small pistol primer; NOT a magnum.

    I never use magnum primers. Standard small primers are fairly consistent between the big four American manufacturers. But The small magnum primers seem to vary a LOT from CCI to Rem. to Win. to Federal. I stopped using them early on.

    I loaded 13.5 to 14.5gr. with the 125gr slugs. I never had a problem.

    Blue dot doesn't deliver the top velocity that, say H110 can, but I get 'nearly' the same velocity, with much lower charge weight, and without having to use magnum primers.

    I don't understand this 'change' for Blue Dot. I've used my loads in 2 inch, 4 inch, and 6 inch 357 magnums. And I've never had a problem.

    I wonder if Alliant turned out some 'bad' batches of Blue Dot?
     
  7. CanyonMan

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    Never a problem with it......


    CM
     
  8. OV1kenobi

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    That really is a shame!

    12.7 grains of Blue Dot with a 125 grain Hornady XTP bullet really was a snappy, yet very manageable and accurate load in .357 Magnum out of a S&W Model 66 with four-inch barrel!

    Regards
     
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  9. Zombie Steve

    Zombie Steve Decap Pin Killa

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    I would think if it was a bad batch, they would have recalled the batch, not the load data...
     
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  10. dudley

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    I've shot 2500 rounds this year 357Sig with 10.0 gr bluedot, not problems here
     
  11. Highspeedlane

    Highspeedlane NRA Life Member

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    You are exactly right and my bad for trying to post from my obviously faulty memory. I've edited that post. From now on I'll be looking at my notes.
     
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  12. HAVOC

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    You'll have to take the Blue Dot from my cold, dead hands. I've loaded thousands of the now supposedly dangerous recipes and all my guns have all their parts. It's my preferred mid-high power load in .357 Mag, .45 ACP, .44 Mag and .45 Colt and high power in 9mmP and 10mm, with some use in .45ACP and .44 Special.
     
  13. f4tweet

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    357 Sig also. Big flash!
     
  14. dougader

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    I tried reloading 45 Colt and .454Casull with BD. Accuracy sucked no matter what formula I tried. Back to Win 296 and Unique.
     
  16. lomfs24

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    Of course this letter was posted for 357 Mag but I too have shot BD out of 357 Sig and have been quite happy with it. I would not recommend it if you ever needed to shoot at night. Horrible muzzle flash but no signs of over pressure.

    I have also shot BD from 357 Mag with no issues either. I don't have a 357 anymore so no worries at the moment.
     
  17. f4tweet

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    I switched over to AA-9 and am much happier with it in 357 Sig and 10MM.
     
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  18. lomfs24

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    I'll give AA-9 a shot. (No pun intended)
     
  19. stengun

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    Howdy,

    I too have been using BD for years. Actually since 1994.

    I love BD for magnum or maxinum auto pistol loads, especially in the 10mm.

    I use it for .380, 9mm, 9mmx21, 9mmx23, 40S&W, 10mm, .45acp, .45 Super, .45 Colt and .454 Casull.

    I've never had any problems.

    Paul
     
  20. den888

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    Used BD in 9mm loads in the past with no issues. Thanks for the warning.