close

Privacy guaranteed - Your email is not shared with anyone.

Blind Faith...ILS Cat3 approach

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by airmotive, Oct 13, 2012.

  1. airmotive

    airmotive Tin Kicker

    Messages:
    9,141
    Likes Received:
    2,574
    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2007
    Location:
    Debris Field
    I've shot a few ILS approaches down to mins in a trusty, dusty Piper Arrow. For some reason, this video makes my stomach churn. It's a landing in Zurich. You hear the main wheels contact the runway, but you can't see the runway until the nose comes down and the nose wheel makes contact....that's some serious fog. (And this is in the mountains!!):faint:

    Awwww...hell no.
    http://youtu.be/EgeT-F9-1KI
     
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2012
  2. mikeflys1

    mikeflys1 Pastafarian

    Messages:
    3,656
    Likes Received:
    19
    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2007
    Location:
    CT

  3. jpa

    jpa CLM

    Messages:
    8,030
    Likes Received:
    130
    Joined:
    May 28, 2001
    Location:
    Las Vegas NV
    I think I pooped a little.
     
  4. aircarver

    aircarver Descent Terminated Silver Member

    Messages:
    30,672
    Likes Received:
    8,671
    Joined:
    May 26, 2002
    Location:
    Ft. Worth, Republic of Texas
    "This is your robot pilot.... Absolutely nothing can go wrong .... can go wrong ... can go wrong ...."

    :alex:



    Maintenance Write-up:

    "Autoland is kinda rough"

    Maintenance followup:

    "This plane is not equipped with autoland"


    .
     
  5. 98LS-WON

    98LS-WON

    Messages:
    860
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2008
    Location:
    Lacey, WA
    We did something like that as a right seater flying mail into Miami. I quit very shortly after that.
     
  6. Hines57

    Hines57 Simple Member

    Messages:
    6,211
    Likes Received:
    1,932
    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2001
    Location:
    On the road
    Kind of appropriate

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFSm6x2fIZI"]Blind Faith-Can't Find My Way Home - YouTube[/ame]



    .
     
  7. airmotive

    airmotive Tin Kicker

    Messages:
    9,141
    Likes Received:
    2,574
    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2007
    Location:
    Debris Field
    Hahaha...I always pictured the dog to be more of a rotty.

    Also heard of putting a kitten in the cockpit so the pilot would have something to play with until it was time to taxi in.
     
  8. GVIFlyer

    GVIFlyer Senior Member

    Messages:
    12,805
    Likes Received:
    5,437
    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2008
    Location:
    Somewhere in the air.
    No thanks, if I don't see something by 100 feet, I'm going around.

    Interestingly, in a non-CAT III aircraft with Enhanced Vision (Forward Looking Infra-Red (FLIR) or Millimeter Wave Radar), the pilot will generally have a pretty compelling view of the runway through the Heads-Up Display (HUD) even when conditions are WOXOF, but unless the first officer sees something with his Mark 1-A1 Eyeball at 100 feet, you still have to go around.
     
  9. Dennis in MA

    Dennis in MA Get off my lawn

    Messages:
    42,700
    Likes Received:
    2,821
    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2001
    Location:
    Taunton, MA
    Just like Die Hard II, there are other airports. Lol
     
  10. k9medic

    k9medic

    Messages:
    1,560
    Likes Received:
    272
    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2000
    Location:
    at an LZ near you
    Try shooting an approach like that on NVGs. Seeing the rabbit appear can startle the heck out of you.


    Outdoor Hub mobile, the outdoor information engine
     
  11. Bushflyr

    Bushflyr ʇno uıƃuɐɥ ʇsnɾ Millennium Member

    Messages:
    3,532
    Likes Received:
    4
    Joined:
    Mar 17, 1999
    Location:
    Western WA
    Ahhh, Cat 3 means never having to say "missed approach" :supergrin: <3 <3
     
  12. GVIFlyer

    GVIFlyer Senior Member

    Messages:
    12,805
    Likes Received:
    5,437
    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2008
    Location:
    Somewhere in the air.
    I've used the AN/PVS-6 and the AN/AVS-9 night vision goggles while I was in the service.

    Enhanced Vision Systems (EVS) are easier.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qjsCpwHXxSM&rel=0
     
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2012
  13. F14Scott

    F14Scott Luggage CLM

    Messages:
    4,680
    Likes Received:
    1,351
    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2001
    Location:
    Katy, TX
    We were right on the edge of being almost blue water ops with an entire cycle (about 11 jets) airborne when a fog bank closed in around the boat. They decided to give the first few jets a look to see if it were *really* zero/zero.

    When the first guy down the chute called "Clara ball" (3/4 mile, 660 feet, I don't see the ball), the LSO's said "You SOUND good, keep it coming." They gave him another five seconds of no contact (about eight seconds before impact) before they pickled him (waved him off). The jet floored it and broke out, mid waveoff, at about fifty feet above the deck.

    I'm glad I wasn't in that jet.

    (BTW, they launched a couple of tankers and sent the whole gaggle to the beach.)
     
  14. jtull7

    jtull7 Pistolero CLM

    Messages:
    6,150
    Likes Received:
    22
    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2006
    Location:
    Santa Fe, New Mexico
    No one has ever died due to the execution of a propitious 180 degree turn.

    As Dennis in MA said, there are always other airports.