I'm really not talking about X-frame revolvers or Desert Eagles... What I'm talking about are firearms that were designed to be carbines but to avoid SBR registration, their stocks have been omitted. AR-15 pistol, Draco AK pistol, Kriss Vector pistol, etc... Personally I have no experience with them, but they seem to be an awesome concept. Obviously the SBR route has some major advantages, but I just HATE the idea of registering any of my firearms. It seems like they fill a void between the size and convenience of a pistol, and the accuracy and firepower of a rifle. I have seen guys make seriously tight groups at 50+ yards with these carbine pistols. Not rifle tight, but way tighter and way faster than anyone can do with a real pistol. I want one. Mostly the Kriss. Just a dream right now as I cannot afford a $1700 dollar firearm right now.