Bianchi plate practice

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  1. PhoneCop

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    I've been practicing the BPs. Please share your observations on these observations:

    1- First shot from the proscribed low ready is in about 1.1 sec.
    2- 2nd shot is usually accomplished in 0.6 - 0.7 sec.
    3- 3rd through 6th shot splits are about 0.5 seconds.
    4- Seem to average 3.75 - 3.90 for 6 outta 6 (with the occasional 5 for 6) run.
    5- I next to never miss on the first shot.
    6- I next to next to never miss the second shot
    7- Misses occur most frequently on the 3rd, 4th, or 5th shot.
    8- Misses don't seem related to time as much as to when I fail to focus on the front sight or jerk the trigger. That's based on a review of the average split times when I miss compared to when I hit being just 0.02 sec different and my introspections on the shots.
    9- Missing and having to make up a single miss puts me in over 4 everytime.

    Vids at: http://youtube.com/user/DeadeyeSteve

    sample data:

    String Time Hits Shots % Time/Shot
    1 3.97 6 6 100% 0.6617
    2 4.27 6 7 86% 0.6100
    3 3.67 6 6 100% 0.6117
    4 3.51 6 6 100% 0.5850
    5 3.93 6 7 86% 0.5614
    6 3.35 4 6 67% 0.5583
    7 3.00 5 5 100% 0.6000
    8 4.25 6 8 75% 0.5313
    9 3.60 6 6 100% 0.6000
    10 4.26 6 7 86% 0.6086
    Average 3.78 90% 0.5928

    (removed scores because they were with a Kimber sporting a bad rear sight)
     
  2. PhoneCop

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    string hits % total time 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
    1 6 100% 3.67 1.08 0.56 0.54 0.52 0.48 0.49
    2 4 67% 3.56 1.01 0.49 0.47 0.50 0.56 0.53
    3 5 83% 3.49 1.14 0.52 0.47 0.43 0.47 0.46
    4 6 100% 3.5 1.10 0.52 0.48 0.48 0.43 0.49
    5 6 100% 3.39 1.05 0.53 0.44 0.47 0.46 0.44
    6 5 83% 3.25 1.02 0.50 0.46 0.45 0.43 0.39
    7 5 83% 3.21 1.07 0.48 0.44 0.39 0.40 0.43
    8 6 100% 3.72 1.42 0.51 0.47 0.46 0.43 0.43
    9 5 71% 3.82 1.08 0.50 0.47 0.45 0.43 0.42 0.47
    10 5 83% 3.54 1.21 0.55 0.47 0.44 0.45 0.42
    11 6 86% 4.29 1.08 0.62 0.47 0.47 0.49 0.45 0.71
    12 6 86% 4.36 1.13 0.94 0.51 0.46 0.43 0.44 0.45
    13 6 86% 3.7 1.15 0.44 0.59 0.52 0.47 0.53 0.49
    14 6 100% 3.74 1.14 0.59 0.52 0.47 0.53 0.49
    15 5 83% 3.58 1.25 0.52 0.56 0.48 0.39 0.38
    16 5 83% 3.2 1.12 0.51 0.56 0.50 0.51 0.52
    17 4 67% 3.8 1.23 0.61 0.51 0.48 0.48 0.49
    18 5 83% 3.51 0.96 0.49 0.51 0.50 0.60 0.45
    19 5 83% 3.74 1.16 0.50 0.60 0.46 0.50 0.52
    20 6 100% 3.49 1.11 0.47 0.57 0.52 0.42 0.40
    21 4 67% 3.61 1.18 0.60 0.49 0.45 0.46 0.43
    22 6 100% 3.84 1.15 0.62 0.50 0.50 0.57 0.50
    23 4 67% 3.64 1.06 0.60 0.63 0.48 0.44 0.43
    Average 5.26 85% 3.64 1.13 0.55 0.51 0.47 0.47 0.46
     

  3. PhoneCop

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    The above was shot with a G17.

    This was with my G23:

    (looks like I prefer the G17)

    string hits % total time 1 2 3 4 5 6
    1 5 83% 4.11 1.26 0.83 0.54 0.49 0.51 0.48
    2 5 83% 3.86 1.20 0.63 0.60 0.49 0.46 0.48
    3 4 67% 3.96 1.17 0.68 0.55 0.47 0.58 0.51
    4 6 100% 3.82 1.23 0.56 0.54 0.52 0.49 0.48
    5 5 83% 4.07 1.28 0.66 0.58 0.50 0.52 0.53
    6 5 83% 3.71 1.25 0.50 0.50 0.49 0.48 0.49
    7 5 83% 3.73 1.21 0.61 0.50 0.50 0.48 0.43
    8 5 71% 3.68 1.10 0.59 0.52 0.45 0.49 0.47
    9 5 83% 3.68 1.18 0.59 0.55 0.50 0.41 0.45
    Average 5.00 82% 3.85 1.21 0.63 0.54 0.49 0.49 0.48
     
  4. BCarver

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    PhoneCop,

    The problem that you are having is common. I've seen it happen by many shooters. This is what could be happening:

    Usually, when you miss the last half of the plates, when shooting from either left to right or right to left, you are:

    ** Not keeping your shoulders square, dropping a shoulder the more your body turns, thus seeing the sights in an angle

    ** Taking your eyes off of the sights and looking at the plates but "thinking" that you are looking at the sights

    ** Bending your strong arm to compensate for the lack of turning smooth and level

    Here's Fix:

    1. Practice rotating your body from either right to left or left to right focusing on keeping the gun level. You may want to use a horizontal "sight line" or even the rear of the berm to practice your rotation and swiveling of the hips, focusing upon smooth swings. Try this without shooting but simulating that you are shooting.

    2. When shooting the plates "do not" take your eyes off of the front sight and only break the trigger when the front sight is on the target's center.

    3. Before firing a shot, while getting ready, raise your gun to the first plate and then swivel to the last plate, if you feel strained, with one foot, adjust so that your body is in the same stress starting as when you finish. This will assist you with a smooth swing.

    4. Practice...practice...practice. Try to keep all transitions from all plates the same. Your times on all runs should not vary more than .10 seconds.

    Let us know how your progress.

    Regards,
    Bobby
     
  5. PhoneCop

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    Concrete advice. I'll print that, take it to the range and see what pops up. Of the three, I'm betting on an occassional "glance" down to the plates, changing my focus.

    I may not be swiveling enough at the hips, maybe. As I digest that one I think I may be twisting at the chest to shoulder area.

    Let ya know.

    And thanks.