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Best video performance on a PCI bus?

Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by CheesyD, Aug 29, 2004.

  1. CheesyD

    CheesyD Nyet to Marxism

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    My PC is a 2.8 GHz w/512MB RAM and a GEForce FX 5200 PCI bus video card. I need to ramp up in the video department to play the new games. What would be the best way to go video card wise? I'm limited to PCI as far as I know.
     
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    NetNinja Always Faithful

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    you can't squeeze blood from a turnip.

    Time to go an AGP motherboard.

    You are at the performance limit of your PCI bus.
     

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    CheesyD Nyet to Marxism

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    Argh. Thanks. The wife ain't gonna like this.

    Anyone recommend a decent motherboard? I have an Intel Celeron 2.8GHz. Should I abandon that too or find a compatible motherboard for it?
     
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    I would recommmend picking up an Asus P4C800-E motherboard and a Pentium 4 2.4C

    The price is reasonable and you can always overclock the snot out of/upgrade the CPU at a later date if you want to. :) I know the Celery is a 2.8GHz processor, but the Celeron's are so neutered that the 2.4C with the 800MHz BUS will outperform it. You can also go faster like a 2.8 or a 3.2GHz, Intel's prices have dropped recently.
     
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    The above posters are correct, that ordinary PCI cards in your system are the equivalent of putting 87 octane gasoline in a Porsche 911 turbo. The PCI bus is simply too limited.

    Any of the decent brand boards based on Intel's 865 PE chipset will fit your bill quite nicely. I suggest MSI, Gigabyte, Epox, or Intel. Don't get one with the integrated graphics.

    This motherboard, for example:

    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-121-186&depa=0

    Intel's "PERL" line. Solidly constructed.

    or

    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-123-217&depa=0

    Epox's EP-4PDA3I board.

    I've built dozens of systems with the above boards, and have been quite pleased with the quality.

    Avoid the lesser brands, such as ECS, PC Chips, Syntax, etc. Also, I no longer recommend Soyo brand motherboards, seeing how they were bought out by the PC Chips conglomerate. Don't be fooled by their rebate offerings; you won't get them, now that PC Chips is in charge.
     
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    CheesyD Nyet to Marxism

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    Thanks for the advice guys... much appreciated!

    I've been doing some digging and figure since I have to completely rebuild I might as well go all out. Here's what I've come up with so far...

    Intel P4/3.0E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper-Threading Technology -- $209.00
    Thermaltake Silent PurePower, 420W ATX Power Supply, P4 Compliant -- $38.00
    ASUS P4P800E-Deluxe i865PE Chipset for Intel Socket 478 -- $112.00
    Cooler Master Jet 4 CPU Fan for Intel P4 478 -- $44.99
    Corsair Value Select Dual Channel Kit 184 Pin 1GB (512MBx2) DDR PC3200 -- $155.00
    Seagate 80GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive -- $72.75
    Sapphire ATI Radeon 9800PRO, 128MB DDR, 256-Bit -- $209.00

    All this totals out to $840 at NewEgg.com. All this to play a $50 game. ;g
     
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    I'm not completely sure how much of an immediate impact this will have, but do be aware that PCI express is coming out and will likely replace AGP. Since you're looking at building a computer pretty soon, you may want to look into it. If nothing else, maybe it'll help to lower prices on the becoming-obsolete AGP stuff.
     
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    CheesyD Nyet to Marxism

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    OK, two $50 games... EQII and Doom 3.
     
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    CheesyD Nyet to Marxism

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    Good point, thanks. I don't "need" to be rebuilt until mid-November anyway.
     
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    I'd say go ahead.

    True, that eventually everyone will be moving on to PCI-Express, but by the time the Radeon 9800 Pro becomes a weakling card (relatively speaking), you're probably going to want to upgrade the motherboard anyways.