Best President

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  1. gwalchmai

    gwalchmai Lucky Member

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    Who do you consider our best President? Best President in the 19th or 20th centuries? And why?

    I'll reserve comment for a while to avoid coloring the discussion.
     
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    Chester Alan Arthur, he didn't screw things up.
     

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    Diesel McBadass Tactically Epic

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    Obama. He brought hope and change.
     
  4. Baba Louie

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    Washington as overall best. He set the bar high.

    19th... Jefferson... altho I agree with Ellis, he was the American Sphinx and did violate the Constitution (w/ the Louisiana purchase) and learned saying something is one thing, actually doing it, another.

    20th... Truman... from my hometown so my feelings are locally drawn, but even with his flaws (they all have flaws) made some good hard decisions, a few bad ones as well.

    I enjoy reading about all of them tho, depending on the author's slant on them.
     
  5. uhlawpup

    uhlawpup l'Italia s'è desta

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    I am.

    I have replenished our emergency fund, improved the swimming pool, and kept the homeowners association out of people's private business. If it doesn't affect the common area, or the peaceful enjoyment of our townhomes, I don't let it happen.

    So there.
     
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    In my lifetime, Ronald Reagan
     
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    Best: George Washington.

    Best 19th Century: James Madison

    Best 20th Century: T. Roosevelt
     
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    Child of the 80's great time to grow up in the US, Reagn no doubt
     
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    I would say Washington for these reasons:

    1. He was he first, with the responsibility of figuring out what to do with this new nation, and not screwing up so that people would revolt (again).

    2. He was a combat proven General in the war that we won to form this country, so he knew the price in blood it took to free us and what it was worth firsthand.

    3. He presided over the convention that both drafted the constitution and literally devised a new form of government that to this day is the best the planet has seen. Then he made those words on paper mean something through his actions.

    All this, plus he was a good moonshiner ! No other president can come close to these things.
     
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    Curious why?.. .. Deficit rocketed, dealt secretly with Iran's terrorists sending the arms, lied on national TV about Iran Contra, and against gun rights..

    So the list of his cool stuff please...
     
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    MTV! music videos, moto cross, girls etc...........I was a kid dude!
    look at it from a 13 year olds perspective
     
  12. ChuteTheMall

    ChuteTheMall Wallbuilder and Weapon Bearer

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    James K. Polk, my favorite Democrat.

    He promised to serve only one term, and then he stepped down.

    He defeated our enemies and not only enforced, but expanded our borders. He was a true warrior-President.

    He nearly doubled the size of the US, he annexed Texas, and pushed on to the Pacific Coast even before the gold rush.
    He established the Treasury system that was not destroyed until 1913.
    He even tried to buy Cuba from Spain.

    He died at 53, about 3 months after finishing his term.

    12 states have a Polk County today.

    :patriot:
     
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    Uh OK... Just say no and have your astrologer wife call some shots...

    Thought maybe some post 13 yo perspective would factor in...
     
  14. tous

    tous GET A ROPE!

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    Texas was not annexed by the United States. Texas negotiated statehood and we have regretted it ever since.

    I agree with your assessment of Polk. He was a disciple of Jackson and he created the United States Naval Academy,

    Note that he did not 'push' to the Pacific Coast. The United States acquired California, New Mexico, Arizona and other territories because we won the Mexican-American War.

    Perhaps the best thing once can say about Polk is that he wasn't a Whig. They were the party of big government ruled by the New York elites at the time and thankfully, they faded into history.

    :wavey:
     
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    If he's good enough for Al Bundy, he's good enough for me !
     
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    I understand there's some question about a brand new Cadillac, though...
     
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    Texas was annexed by the United States.
    Outgoing Pres. Tyler made the offer on his last day in office, incoming Pres. Polk then encouraged Texas to accept it, and they did accept annexation.
    Winning that war is how Polk acquired those territories;
    his very credible threat to go to war against the UK got us the Oregon Territory, and that's how Polk pushed our western border to the Pacific all the way from what is now Canada to Mexico.

    wikipedia.org/wiki/James_K._Polk

    Texas accepts annexation:
    wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_annexation

    :tongueout:
    I know you were there when it happened, but you must have been too young to read at the time.:fred:
    :okie:
     
  18. gwalchmai

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    During his relief work in Europe and the Soviet Union, Herbert Hoover saved more lives than any other person in history. He also provided relief for victims of the 1927 Mississippi River flood without using any of the taxpayers' money. He didn't think it was the job of the FEDGOV to provide disaster relief.

    And he ordered MacArthur to not use force against the Bonus Army. Orders are not always followed, though.
     
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    tous GET A ROPE!

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    Chute, you are correct. My objection to the term 'annexation' is because it implies that the US just took over the Republic, similar to the way Madison just decided that Florida was part of the Louisiana Purchase and grabbed it.

    Texas was admitted as a state via treaty, thus it was annexed.
    Regardless of the term used, we still regret it.
    :wavey:
     
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    Too funny.

    I loved that episode.