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Best 30-06 Ammo on Elk & Moose?

Discussion in 'Hunting, Fishing & Camping' started by 147 Grain, Feb 20, 2005.

  1. 147 Grain

    147 Grain

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    Looking for expert opinions on brand, weight, and type of bullet construction for hunting elk or moose using a 30-06.

    Also, how would this round perform in the heart & lung area (behind the shoulder) versus a high shoulder shot more directly into the heart?

    Are premium or bonded bullets more ideal?

    Thanks in advance of your advice!
     
  2. AR15'em

    AR15'em Roll Tide??

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    I would definitely stick with 180gr bullets, maybe Nosler Partitions or bonded Swift A-Frame bullets. I think lung/heart shots would be the ticket, but they still should hold together pretty well on shoulder hits.

    edited to add: Plenty of moose/elk have been taken with plain old 180-220gr Core-Lokts, but I would feel a lot better with a premium bullet.
     

  3. 147 Grain

    147 Grain

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    Are the Federal 180-gr. Grand Slams any good and what about Winchester's AccuBond round?
     
  4. AR15'em

    AR15'em Roll Tide??

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    Grand Slams are very good bullets, but I don't know much about the AccuBonds. If they are anything like the Fail Safes, then thay should be fine.
     
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    shark_za Woes

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    I'm guessing Elk=Kudu and Moose= about Eland size.
    Bullet weight can make up for the use of a premium bullet, use a 220gr for closer ranges.
    If its longer shots, something like a 180gr trophy bonded bear claw or Swift A-frame.
    Think Federal loads both over there.
    I have taken big animals with the 200gr Grand Slam at about 2500fps.
     
  6. CCV

    CCV Millennium Member

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    What he said!
     
  7. Big Bird

    Big Bird NRA Life Member

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    I killed my first bull elk with a 30-06 stoked with 180 grain nosler partitions loaded to right around 2850 fps. He never knew what hit him. An average bull elk will go 600 lbs with the few rare monsters weighing in around 1,000 lbs...but those are the very rare exception.
    With the 30-06 you'll want to keep your shots under 350 yards.
     
  8. Quake Guy

    Quake Guy Superior Member

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    Nosler Partitions. If you have a normal weight rifle with a 24 inch barrel, you may want to consider the High Engergy versions.

    I tried them in my Weatherby Ultra Lightweight and they were just too brutal and went with the normal power ones.

    You can try the trophy bonded bear claw, but I know people who have used the Noslers with great effect on Elk.

    They are deep penetrators which is what you need for these animals. By the way, I understand it takes several rounds to drop a Moose regardless of the caliber.
     
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    ponykilr Off The Porch

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    swift a-frame or the failsafe. you can get either in factory loaded ammo. remington has the a-frame, winchester has the failsafe.
     
  10. branden

    branden AMERICA **** YA

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    180 grain Trophy Bonded Bear Claw. My dad uses these every year in Colorado. He is 4 for 4. One shot kills. They keep all of there weight and mushroom beautifully. About $25 a box from Bass Pro. Well worth it.
     
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    ThreadKiller Socialism Sucks

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    Didn't Will Rogers once say, "I've never met a Nosler Partition I didn't like?"

    There's a reason they've been in production since 1946. They work.

    Put a 180 or a 200 grain Partition in the right place and the elk will go down.

    Tim
     
  12. modgun

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    Are you shooting Elk or Moose?

    Elk avg - 600lbs

    Moose avg -900lbs

    Alaskan Moose even more, like 1100lbs avg, all the way up to over 15oo lbs.
     
  13. IV Troop

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    AR15'em wrote:

    "I would definitely stick with 180gr bullets, maybe Nosler Partitions or bonded Swift A-Frame bullets. I think lung/heart shots would be the ticket, but they still should hold together pretty well on shoulder hits.

    edited to add: Plenty of moose/elk have been taken with plain old 180-220gr Core-Lokts, but I would feel a lot better with a premium bullet."



    That is right on the money. I have killed around a dozen elk and have witnesses probably around 25 or so killed. A good 180 grainer out of an '06 will do just fine. In spite of what the gunrags will tell you, you don't need a magnum to kill big game. I have killed more head of big game with a 150 grain .270 Nosler partition than I can recall. Heck I can even recall my little mom killing four big bull elk back in the late 70s and early 80s with a 270, all one shot kills.

    I love my 300 winmag but one could do it all with an 06 just as well and with less recoil.

    IVTroop


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    I second the 180 grain Nosler Partition. If you meed/want anything else, try the Federal 180 gr. Swift triple shock x.
     
  15. freakshow10mm

    freakshow10mm 10mm Advocate

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    180gr just to be sure. Fail Safe, Partition, A-Frame, Trophy Bonded Bear Claw. My 16 year old cousin used a 140gr Fail Safe out of his 7mm-08 and took a nice elk last year. Shot it twice (for insurance) at 125 yards, ran about 75 more and it was a done deal. Wasn't a huge bull, but it was decent size. Definately go with a premium bullet. Gotta make sure it gets to where it needs to go and does its job on the way.