Behold the wisdom of our black- robed overlords...

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by Dukeboy01, Mar 26, 2010.

  1. Dukeboy01

    Dukeboy01 Pretty Ladies!

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  2. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

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    in many jurisdictions judges are voted in (some are appointed though).
    and the ones voted in are politicians first. got that?

    many will base their "judgement" of a case or suspect on how it will look for them on election day. thats just the way it is.

    there are some, i dont know any, but somebody surely must know at least one judge that is fair and reasonable in the application of law without consideration of political views or backlash.
     

  3. CAcop

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    I have a feeling he will be dead soon and not at the hands of the police. Today's suspect is often tomorrow's victim.
     
  4. lawman800

    lawman800 Juris Glocktor

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    It just keeps getting better, don't it?
    The funny thing is that the 9th Circuit of all places has recently decided two cases the RIGHT way.

    They rejected Loser Newdow's case and decided that it is constitutional to have pledge of allegiance in schools. People who object can stand quietly and not recite it, but they have to stand to show respect to the country.

    They also decided that a teacher had the constitutional right to displays patriotic banners in his classroom with messages such as the pledge of allegiance. Although this is more narrow since the facts are that a school district allows teachers "free expression" in the classroom but only told one teacher that had patriotic messages that he had to take his stuff down while letting other teachers have Hindu, Buddhist, Islamic and various other political or religious messages. The court decided that free expression had to be applied equally and not discriminate only if it is patriotic. All or nothing.

    I don't know... 2 logical decisions in a row. Maybe this is the 7th sign of the Apocalypse....
     
  5. wprebeck

    wprebeck Have you seen me?

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    The timing on you post is funny. I'm at the conference, and just got done listening to one of your judges. Good times.
     
  6. glock192327

    glock192327 Where is eye

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    I think he passed away in the 1700's?
     
  7. Cochese

    Cochese Most mackinest CLM

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    That guy don't need a bond, he need a rope.
     
  8. A6Gator

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    I'm glad to see all the bench morons aren't in Memphis... I vote for starting a "stupid judge" sticky. I'll bet it fills up faster than a 9mm vs 40/45 thread...:rofl:
     
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    Oh, come on now...this guy only shot a cop. It's not like the judge let an EDP who stabbed someone to death during a robbery leave the jail unsupervised with his girlfriend to go to a doctor's appointment and then I had to go to Wisconsin to pick him up after the Marshals caught him on the way to Canada or anything.

    Dukeboy01 and I work in the same county but, sadly, this isn't the same judge nor are the judges in these two cases the most liberal on the bench.
     
  10. lawman800

    lawman800 Juris Glocktor

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    It just keeps getting better, don't it?
    Yes, my timing is impeccable.
     
  11. PROSOUTH

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    I understand the distaste with Judges, but in reality Judges have case laws based on previous decisions and Code Law to draw decisions from. The laws they use for these decisions are made by the representatives we VOTE into office and are handed down to Judges to base their decisions on or be overturned by the next level of court. We are at the bottom of this chain having to enforce those laws and bring them before the court. Judges nor us make the laws we must enforce.

    There isn't a lot of difference in us at all, thing is the courts decisions are necessary in every case and we at least have some discretion in what we enforce and / or how we present them to the Court for Judges to rule on. I know that our involvement is of the criminal aspect, but all in all it's just like the situation at hand, our elected Representatives are the cause for all of our problems. Liberal laws and liberals using them are going to be the downfall of us all......

    One of our Judges, who was a good man, took me into chambers one day after I had mumbled something under my breath at one of his rulings. He asked me what I had said and I told him what I had on my mind. He looked at me and said, If you don't like what I rule quit voting for the representatives who make the laws that you don't like. He stated that he knew there were laws I must enforce that I had a personal distaste for, just as he had to rule by case or code laws he also had personal distaste for.

    I know many are influenced by an agenda, but some are also constrained by the many who make that agenda basis for rule.

    :dunno:
     
  12. Mrs.Cicero

    Mrs.Cicero Wayward Member

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    and then there's the family court judge here in Michigan who bases her decisions NOT on the case law (of which she is entirely ignorant) but on whether or not the attorneys presenting the case voted for her or not. (Yeah, she called them all up individually, after the last election, and flat out asked them how they voted). I have no good opinion of the elect-a-lying-politician-for-judge system in this state.

    Mrs.Cicero
     
  13. lawman800

    lawman800 Juris Glocktor

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    It just keeps getting better, don't it?
    First of all, I would tell her I did even if I didn't and I probably wouldn't have, knowing the situation... but that behavior would warrant a call to the Commission on Judicial Conduct right away.
     
  14. Mrs.Cicero

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    I'm not a lawyer and don't play one on tv,,, but apparently, none of the lawyers she called had sense enough to tape the conversations, and I guess they figured their word v. her word would cost them too much career-wise. I don't agree with it, but I've only ditched careers after the student loans were paid off. These folks were still paying on theirs...

    Still, I'll be happy to help out in the campaign for whoever runs against her next...

    Mrs.Cicero
     
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    I like how Nebraska handles it for both County AND District Court judges. They are appointed, then come up for a retention vote every 4 years I think....

    That retention vote came in very handy (and I did vote to kick her out on her butt) in my district in the past few years. A District Court judge based in Sidney (district covers most of the panhandle, although the main court is in Gering) gave a sex offender PROBATION because she was worried he'd get picked on in prison because he's short. WTF?

    Side note, props to all you cops and prosecutors who still somehow find the stomache to go back to work day after day what with all the morons on and off the street yo have to put up with. We the public do appreciate it!
     
  16. lawman800

    lawman800 Juris Glocktor

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    It just keeps getting better, don't it?
    If you convene a grand jury and call up all the lawyers who have had cases before her and have them testify under oath, I wonder how many would lie about it... nevermind, I answered my own question. The ones who won will deny it while the ones who lost will tell the truth.