Basta! Time to Dismantle the FBI

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  1. Burebista

    Burebista "Democrats are garbage people"

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    I for one, have said this for years.

    Now I see other people have started catching up with my idea. Roger Simon the CEO op PJ Media, novelist and Academy Award winning screenwriter is saying the same thing: disband the FBI.

    Why is it necessary to take this action some may say it would be too radical, instead of only replacing the FBI's corrupt upper management?

    Because the newest batch of documents released in the Flynn case contradict the narrative that only the FBI bosses were corrupt and the rank and file agents were good loyal men and women, just doing their jobs, and they never knew what their superiors were doing.

    On the contrary, they knew. And none of them had the integrity and courage to fighting back and blow the whistle. Not a single one.

    In fact, they were talking amongst themselves how to purchase professional liability insurance in case what the illegalities they were asked to do become public and they would get sued.

    Think about that: professional liability insurance for government employees being accomplices to Federal crimes, like framing an innocent Army General, lying to FISA judges, committing treason against a dully elected President and overturning the result of a free election.

    It's mind blowing.

    The FBI is not salvageable. Trump needs to dismantle this nest of traitors, cowards and moochers after the election, and make the US Marshals take over the FBI's role.

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/basta-time-to-dismantle-the-fbi_3515377.html
     
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  2. wiskeyVI

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  3. JFrame

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    Yeah... I'm coming to the belief that the FBI has a systemic culture of corruption and hubris that is irreparable.

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  4. Collo Rosso

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    To much power, no accountability.
     
  5. BL33D 4 M3

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    I agree in principle. I don't think it is practical. In my mind the solution is to let due process hold accountable the criminals and make the consequences and risk untenable for future traitors. Pipe dream I know.
     
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  6. bdcochran

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    Back when Mr. Hoover headed the FBI, the field agents kept time sheets. Mr. Hoover liked to testify at funding hearings about the overtime his agents would put in. An old agent told me years ago that the agents knew this and would phony time sheets -like taking in a movie and reporting surveillance.

    LA had a police chief come from NY City. He went back. He wanted crime reduced. So, it was reduced. The LA Times ran series of articles on how LAPD downgraded charges while the guy was chief.

    On paper, the FBI command structure is good, the manuals are good, the Inspector General set up is good. Just that systems fail.

    I don't know how you correct the situation. The courage just isn't there.
     
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  7. OXMYX

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    And send everyone in the Pentagon back to their respective bases.

    All they do is polish seats with their asses and act self important.

    This will also take one punch out of an officers ticket on his stairway to the stars.
     
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  8. PhotoFeller

    PhotoFeller A swamp dude

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    I tend to agree with you. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.

    When there’s corruption at the top there will always be some number of minions who fall in line to do the dirty work. It’s true of every powerful organization.

    The FBI needs strong, patriotic leaders who choose and inspire their cadre to build a strong organization of patriotic agents.
     
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  9. R.B. Riddick

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    The FBI Director was nominated by President Trump and was confirmed HUGE by the Senate.

    Since Wray is not being a lapdog for Trump, now there is a problem?
     
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  10. quantico

    quantico 1911 lover Millennium Member

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    I agree that the fbi is too spoiled to try to keep. Its really sad. The bad fruit is all thru the basket ... not just at the top. The political hatred for trump has brought out the illegal political nature of 95 percent of government.

    Teachers unions are bad
    School boards all corrupt
    Local law enforcement too much political.
    Military infested with leftie hatred.
    Nsa and state dept all leftie hacks .

    Dont know about the secret service. But batf and anyone in the justice dept should be fired right now.
     
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  11. DaleGribble

    DaleGribble Liberals 'R Bad!!!!

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    It's not like the FBI hasn't had yuuuuge scandals in the past. Just look at J. Edgar.

    You can dismantle it and put a shiny new agency in its place but the simple truth is as long as human beings are involved, it will become just as corrupt.
     
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    100% OP! US Marshals were there almost at the founding. They did everything the FBI did when they were founded in the early 20th century.

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    I concur after a slight modification.
     
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  14. 'Ol Grandad

    'Ol Grandad Director of civil unrest

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    As DaleGribble posted, as long as there are humans involved, the FBI or any other organization you replace it with will be just as if not more corrupt in short order.
     
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    PhotoFeller A swamp dude

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    Sounds a lot like wanting to defund the police! I don’t get this sudden turn against the entire FBI organization, and it feels dangerous to me.
     
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    PhotoFeller A swamp dude

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    There are kick-ass leaders who could reform the FBI. It will never be perfect, but most bad apples in key positions can be located and discarded.
     
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    if it's "not salvageable", than it never did stand on good principle?

    Than or then, I'm thinking then, since it has to do with time?
     
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  18. Lt. Donn

    Lt. Donn PSO Survivor. currently in NW Georgia

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    Yep local LEO's ( like I was) never trusted or wished to work with them...for a reason
     
  19. igor455

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    When I was n the police academy in 73 we were told never to trust the Feds Well those words were true then and now. Now I had friends that were feds. But never trusted completly
     
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    There has been a problem for awhile. Just about every major case has been screwed up in past 3 decades:

    Ruby Ridge
    Waco
    Hansen investigation
    Ames investigation
    Atlanta Olympic bombing
    911
    Madrid Train Bombing
    Fort Hood
    ACS Contract
    Dylan Roof
    Noor Salman
    Curtis Culwell Center attack
    Daniella Green
    Russiagate
    etc

    Never mind the dozens of smaller embarrassments, crashed Ferrari, Denver breakdancer, Texas gun runner, etc.

    I do not think disbanding it is the answer, but breaking it up into smaller more manageable pieces probably is.