Barr calls Covid-19 lockdowns the “Greatest intrusion...

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  1. arkdweller22

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    I would have said since Roosevelt locked up Japanese Americans, but good for Barr!
     
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    I guess he forgot about the Japanese internment camps in WWII. Pretty sure they would argue that that was worse than a pandemic lockdown.

    And there were lockdowns during the 1918 pandemic too.

    If he thinks these lockdowns were bad, wait until a pandemic with a 10% or 40% fatality rate hits.
     
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    "Barr calls Covid-19 lockdowns the “Greatest intrusion..."


    I doubt the hundreds of thousands/millions of people that have gotten sick/died from C19 would agree.
    They probably wish they had been "locked down".
     
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    I suspect they would.
    Sadly, numbers matter. Japanese internment camps only affected Japanese Americans. Terrible to be sure, but still a minute portion of the population.
    I do believe he meant that the lockdowns amounted to mass house arrest for every American, save the political class. In that way, it has been the biggest intrusion on civil liberties we’ve had in the US.

    They were quite a bit more limited and for a much deadlier disease.

    Maybe. But will people take it seriously next time, given the circus this has been?
     
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    They were. Mostly in nursing homes.

    Family members who didn’t get to have funerals or spend time with dying relatives, most already dying of something else, now wish there weren’t lockdowns.
     
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    I bet the 45 million people put out of work and their financial present future damaged would agree. And maybe 10 or 20 years from now when we feel the negative impact of jacking up the primary, secondary, and college educations of tens of millions, more people will agree with his sentiment. And when we finally realize how many people died and suffered due to the insane singular focus of healthcare being on CoVid and ignoring everything else, then we will see the folly of the shutdowns.
     
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    Thank you Captain Obvious...

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    40%, or even 10% mortality rate is a bit different than .04% wouldn't you say?
     
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    I think Barr is an American hero.
    I know some are disappointed that more people haven't been indicted, etc.
    I trust it will happen. I want charges to stick.
    As the old saying goes, "The wheels of justice grind slowly but exceedingly fine."
     
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    If Biden wins there will be no charges and the "wheels" will grind to a halt and start going in reverse.

    If Trump wins there may be charges of some low level aids or something but none of the people that should be put in prison will be.
     
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    We'll see.
    I suspect you're correct but we're dealing with two personalities here - Trump and Barr - who aren't typical Washington "get along to go along" folks. I'm hoping that together they smash this disgusting Deep State secret cabal.
     
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    The problem with smashing the cabal, you kind of need some of their help to do it. Or find someone who the cabal thinks is a member in good standing, but hates and goes along to get along and is now tired of it.
     
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    And yet he apparently agrees that they are legal, or he’d be taking some sort of action, other pandering to his boss’s base.
     
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    The government appears to be one of the few places (other than union shops) where when the big boss tells you to do something legal and within your role, that you can't just get fired for insubordination.
     
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    It’s not his job to determine legality. But it is his job to furnish opinions.
    You might want to brush up on the concept of separation of powers.
     
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    You might want to brush up on the role of the AG, the chief law enforcement officer of the land. If he thinks it’s wrong he’s duty- bound to do something about it.
     
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    LOL
     
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    Ummmmm what was stopping them from staying home and making what they viewed as prudent choices given their risk group??

    Why does everything need to be a government edict??
     
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    Well, slavery was legal, the ethnic cleansing of native Americans was legal, locking up Japanese in WW2 was legal. Segregation was legal. Jim Crow laws were legal.

    I assume you’re going to say that the Underground Railroad was just pandering to their base. What was MLK doing? Pandering??

    I guess cause you’re “conservative” it’s not ok to speak out against things that are technically legal, but questionable from a moral standpoint.
     
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