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Barney killing/range report (lots of pics)

Discussion in 'GSSF' started by Berto, Mar 8, 2010.

  1. Berto

    Berto woo woo

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    I've been a shooting fiend lately.:supergrin:

    Met up with local GT'er, Roar, today. We shot guns at the indoor range, killed many paper targets....

    and Barney, the purple dinosaur.

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    Guns;

    I used two revolvers and two autos,

    S@W Model 15-2 .38sp 4"

    Ruger GP100 .357mag, 3"


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    Kimber Custom II .45acp

    Arcus 94 9mm (bhp clone)

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    Ammo used:

    MGI (match grade industries) .45acp 230gr FMJ mixed brass reloads
    MGI .38sp Plated Wadcutters, mixed brass reloads
    Blazer .357mag 158gr JHP
    Rem 9mm 124gr FMJ
    Fiocchi 9mm 124gr xtp jhp

    gunshop expert discouraged use of Blazer alum as aluminum cases wreck revolver cylinders

    *I did NOT know this :bunny:
     
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  2. Tvov

    Tvov

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    I have never heard of that.
     

  3. Berto

    Berto woo woo

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    Without stealing Roar's thunder, he blasted away with Glocks model 22 and 27, chewing out the center of the 3" bulls at 10yrds rather boringly. He was scary good with the Ruger 22/45, and the S@W 686....damn.:shocked:

    I did three drills with each gun, 7yrds rapid fire, usually around 2per/sec for a mag or cylinder full.
    10yrds steady fire on barney's noggin, typically a couple mags or three speedloaders.
    All the way out, 20yrds slower fire. All revolver shooting was DA except one extra group from the K frame at 20yrds, just to see how it compared to my DA shooting.
    All guns ran good, no issues.

    The K frame was the star for me today, best groups all around...yeah, it was wadcutters, but surprisingly this MGI ammo in both .38sp and .45acp felt 'full power'. Wadcutters in .38sp are almost always loaded light, this stuff was std pressure, but not really light.

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    DA and SA groups at 20yrds:

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    THe Ruger Gp100 shoots a little right for me, pretty sure it's the sights. This gun actually has a very nice DA trigger...every bit as good as the K frame's.
    THe magnum recoil knocked my rapid fire at 7yrds loose, but it's a great shooter otherwise and sights are close enough.
    Managed a 3" group for six at 20yrds.

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  4. ronin.45

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    Sounds like a great day Berto. Wish I could have been there.


    P.S. I love gunshop experts.:supergrin:
     
  5. Jake Starr

    Jake Starr

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    Either it is brass or aluminum. It can't be both. :wow:

    Aluminum or steel cases will not harm cylinders. Ranges frown on aluminum or steel because they do not want to cull out the brass. I know I work at a range. Two ranges in our area. One does not allow steel or aluminum because they say it is bad for firearms. BS. If it was they would keep quiet so as to let guns malfunction so they could sell customer a new gun.

    Our range and the competitor use the same person to clean the range.and buy the cases...he buys casings from us...we don't sort our brass...guy doesn't care.

    It is all a range ploy. :upeyes:
     
  6. Berto

    Berto woo woo

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    Yeah, me too.:supergrin:


    Anyways, the shooting....

    The Arcus bhp clone has always been a good shooter, it has a decent trigger for a P-35 knockoff.....but it was still the worst trigger in this bunch.
    Still, even with the stiff pull, 3.5" at 20yrds with the XTP's and it rocked pretty well in the RF drills and on Barney.

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    The Kimber also put in a pretty typical performance, the MGI 230gr ball reloads felt warm and POI was high by about 3" at 20yrds. Usually this gun is on the nuts at this range with most std 230gr ammo. Weird.
    Rapid fire at 7yrds is quick and tight with a good 1911 like this.
    Good gun, always works.

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    Fun times, always great to meet up with a fellow GT'er and shoot stuff.
    Especially Barney.
     
  7. Berto

    Berto woo woo

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    The mention of "Blazer Brass" was my typo, it was Blazer aluminum .357mag.
    The range initially wasn't going to let me shoot it there, as they didn't want to have to sort it out from the brass.
    I told them I would police the stuff and eject the shells into my hand, so they relented.
    Later, while shooting, another range/shop guy told me about how the Blazer aluminum cases were bad for revolvers. That was goofy.:upeyes:
     
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  8. harleyfx69

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    it doesnt matter berto ..

    the cylinders are made of hardened steel,

    they arent going to be marred by the steel cases let alone aluminum
     
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    Barney has a headache!
    P.S. send revos to me.
    :wavey:
     
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    Berto woo woo

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    I just finished cleaning my 442 and 686. I guess I am more tired than I thought, so one picture will have to suffice for now. The Glocks will have to wait until tomorrow.

    Here is Barney shot by me using Berto's Model 15. Notice the headshot right between the eyes. That is what you call a dead dinosaur.

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    It was a fun time at the range, although I don't think I was shooting as good as I normally do. Thanks for the compliments though, Berto :supergrin:

    Yes, that range employee guy was FOS!

    btw everyone, don't shoot Buffalo Bore .38 special 158 grain +p LSWCHP in an Airweight j-frame unless you want to punish your hands, and ears (even with ear protection on)
     
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    deadite Groovy.

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    The REAL reason that dinosaurs are extinct! :whistling:

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    Looks like fun, Berto. :thumbsup:
     
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    good shootin!
    i love those wadcutters:supergrin:
     
  16. mike253

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    I still cringe at the memory of shooting full house .357 loads through a 340PD.. I can say I did it, and I can say I won't be doing it again unless I have to.

    From the looks of it, Barney ain't scared.. he took all those rounds and kept smiling.
     
  17. Berto

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    The Buffalo Bore loads sounded about the same as the +p Gold Dots from where I was standing, but no doubt they kick harder, I've tried them in my 442 as well.
     
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