Banning fishing

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  1. jhoagland

    jhoagland That's right! Lifetime Member

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/saltwater/news/story?id=4975762

    By Robert Montgomery
    ESPNOutdoors.com

    This is a column from Robert Montgomery for ESPN Outdoors. As a Senior Writer for BASS Publications, Montgomery has written about conservation, environment, and access issues for more than two decades. It's part of a series of articles from Montgomery on the issue. See a response from editor Steve Bowman regarding concerns with this column.

    The Obama administration has ended public input for a federal strategy that could prohibit U.S. citizens from fishing some of the nation's oceans, coastal areas, Great Lakes, and even inland waters.

    AP/Luis M. Alvarez
    One sign at the United We Fish rally at the Capital summed up the feelings of recreational and commercial fishermen. This announcement comes at the time when the situation supposedly still is "fluid" and the Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force still hasn't issued its final report on zoning uses of these waters.

    Fishing industry insiders, who have negotiated for months with officials at the Council on Environmental Quality and bureaucrats on the task force, had grown concerned that the public input would not be taken into account.

    "When the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) and International Fund for Animal Welfare (IFAW) completed their successful campaign to convince the Ontario government to end one of the best scientifically managed big-game hunts in North America (spring bear), the results of their agenda had severe economic impacts on small family businesses and the tourism economy of communities across northern and central Ontario," said Phil Morlock, director of environmental affairs for Shimano.

    "Now we see NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) and the administration planning the future of recreational fishing access in America based on a similar agenda of these same groups and other Big Green anti-use organizations, through an Executive Order by the President. The current U.S. direction with fishing is a direct parallel to what happened in Canada with hunting: The negative economic impacts on hard-working American families and small businesses are being ignored.

    "In spite of what we hear daily in the press about the President's concern for jobs and the economy and contrary to what he stated in the June order creating this process, we have seen no evidence from NOAA or the task force that recreational fishing and related jobs are receiving any priority."

    Unless more anglers speak up to their Congressional representatives so their input will be considered, it appears the task force will issue a final report for "marine spatial planning" by late March. President Barack Obama then could possibly issue an Executive Order to implement its recommendations.

    Led by NOAA's Jane Lubchenco, the task force has shown no overt dislike of recreational angling. As ESPN previously reported, WWF, Greenpeace, Defenders of Wildlife, Pew Environment Group and others produced a document entitled "Transition Green" shortly after Obama was elected in 2008.

    What has happened since suggests that the task force has been in lockstep with that position paper, according to Morlock.

    In late summer, just after the administration created the task force, these groups produced "Recommendations for the Adoption and Implementation of an Oceans, Coasts, and Great Lakes National Policy." This document makes repeated references to "overfishing," but doesn't reference recreational angling, its importance, and its benefits, both to participants and the resource.

    Additionally, some of these same organizations have revealed their anti-fishing bias with their attempts to ban tackle containing lead in the United States and Canada.

    Also, recreational angling and commercial fishing have been lumped together as harmful to the resource, despite protests by the angling industry.

    Morlock's evidence of collusion -- the green groups began clamoring for an Executive Order to implement the task force's recommendations even before the public comment period ended in February.

    On Feb. 12, the New York Times reported on that "President Obama and his team are preparing an array of actions using his executive power to advance energy, environmental, fiscal and other domestic policy priorities."

    Click here for archiveMorlock fears that "what we're seeing coming at us is an attempted dismantling of the science-based fish and wildlife model that has served us so well. There's no basis in science for the agendas of these groups who are trying to push the public out of being able to fish and recreate.

    "Conflicts (user) are overstated and problems are manufactured. It's all just an excuse to put us off the water."

    In the wake of the task force's framework document, the Congressional Sportsmen's Foundation (CSF) and its partners in the U.S. Recreational Fishing & Boating Coalition again voiced their concerns to the administration.

    "Some of the potential policy implications of this interim framework have the potential to be a real threat to recreational anglers who not only contribute billions of dollars to the economy and millions of dollars in tax revenues to support fisheries conservation, but who are also the backbone of the American fish and wildlife conservation ethic," said CSF President Jeff Crane.

    Morlock, a member of the CSF board, added, "There are over one million jobs in America supported coast to coast by recreational fishing. The task force has not included any accountability requirements in their reports for evaluating or mitigating how the new policies they are drafting will impact the fishing industry or related economies.

    "Given that the scope of this process appears to include a new set of policies for all coastal and inland waters of the United States, the omission of economic considerations is inexcusable."

    This is not the only access issue threatening the public's right to fish, but it definitely is the most serious, according to Chris Horton, national conservation director for BASS.

    "With what's being created, the same principles could apply inland as apply to the oceans," he said. "Under the guise of 'marine spatial planning' entire watersheds could be shut down, even 2,000 miles up a river drainage from the ocean.

    "Every angler needs to be aware because if it's not happening in your backyard today or tomorrow, it will be eventually.

    "We have one of the largest voting blocks in the country and we need to use it. We must not sit idly by."

    ___________________________________________________________________________________________________
    I posted about the Red Snapper closing a while back and some folks thought I was crazy.

    We are under attack from all sides.

    Please help out.

    http://capwiz.com/keepamericafishing/issues/alert/?alertid=14653146

    Easy to send e-mail letter in that link.
     
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  2. G36's Rule

    G36's Rule Senior Member

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    I've been saying it for years... The environmental "movement" will be the end of this country.

    Their first shot was non-toxic shot/banning lead for waterfowl. We bought it hook, line and sinker.

    Now they are going after that as well.
     

  3. jhoagland

    jhoagland That's right! Lifetime Member

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    OK, it was posted before.
    It only went two pages and that was two days ago.


    Gone, Fishing?
    Will Obama’s ocean-policy task force remain in lockstep with radical greens?


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    So Pres. Barack Obama’s “Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force” has decided that the opinions of America’s 60 million anglers aren’t worthy of its consideration.

    This task force, headed by the chair of the Council on Environmental Quality (CEQ), was charged with drafting a national ocean policy of marine spatial planning to manage U.S. ocean territory and the Great Lakes. Its recommendations — due out later this month — could be enacted by executive order.

    Here’s why anglers, and freedom-loving Americans, should be alarmed: Without input from recreational anglers and the conservation groups that represent them — such as Trout Unlimited, the U.S. Recreational Fishing & Boating Coalition, and the Association of Fish & Wildlife Agencies — decisions made under this new national oceans policy could be used to close saltwater and freshwater recreational-fishing areas.


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    On December 9, 2009, President Obama’s task force released its Interim Framework for Marine Spatial Planning. Soon thereafter, a coalition of ten leading recreational fishing and boating organizations submitted joint comments to the task force. The angling groups wanted to be sure the recommendations sent to the president took the guys with the bass rods and flyboxes into consideration.

    After all, America’s anglers are widely credited with saving countless streams, reintroducing and managing fish species, and sounding the alarm when they see a fish species in decline. In fact, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service just announced that $862 million was raised from taxes on hunting, shooting, and fishing equipment in 2009. These funds, which don’t even include monies raised from fishing licenses, will be redistributed to the states for conservation and education programs, as they are every year.

    But never mind who’s paying for the conservation of these resources (green-activist groups that style themselves “preservationists” don’t pay these taxes); the task force has made it clear that it is no longer interested in the fishing groups’ input.

    The White House task force’s top priority isn’t finding out what’s best for these natural resources, and it isn’t the people who use these waters. Its primary interest is advancing an agenda of federal control and environmentalist ideology. That’s why the Detroit News recently observed that “the task force effectively authorizes the feds to take over jurisdiction of one of the remaining linchpins of Michigan’s economy, our multibillion-dollar fishing industry that generates over 27,000 jobs.” It’s why the Congressional Sportsmen’s Foundation says this executive order could affect over one million fishery-related jobs nationwide.

    The groups that have the task force’s ear are preservationist and anti–resource-management groups such as Defenders of Wildlife, the World Wildlife Fund, and Greenpeace — groups that don’t think humans have a right to catch fish or kill deer in the first place. These groups collaborated on a document entitled “Transition Green,” published in late 2008. This paper doesn’t differentiate commercial fishermen from America’s anglers — the environmental groups act as if commercial long-liners fishing miles off shore are the same as people who buy a state fishing license and tote a tackle box to the nearby lakeshore. And, as it turns out, everything this White House task force is doing precisely mirrors what the greens’ position paper outlined.

    http://article.nationalreview.com/427601/gone-fishing/frank-miniter?page=2

    This is a big hairy deal!
    has anyone sent a letter yet? The link is right there in the OP.
     
  4. DR. HOUSE

    DR. HOUSE Everybody Lies

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    JAMBOG!!!

    and the ban will never happen.
     
  5. jhoagland

    jhoagland That's right! Lifetime Member

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    Ima jambog it every day...maybe twice a day. If you think that this is not important just because it's not guns I...I find myself at a loss for words then. It is so very important. We the FREE American people are under attack from all sides now.

    Please send the e-mail. Please.
    Please pass the link on to others.
     
  6. UTKEngineer

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    We find it unimportant because the article you linked explicitly states there is no reason to believe there will be a ban. Pure fear-mongering w/ no substance.
     
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  7. DR. HOUSE

    DR. HOUSE Everybody Lies

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    I like to fish as much as I like to hunt, the reason I find it not important is because it will never happen.
     
  8. jhoagland

    jhoagland That's right! Lifetime Member

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    Pfffffft.
    Same thing was said about other things that did come to pass. Like microstamping ammo. California has put that into effect.

    The activist groups count on that same attitude.
     
  9. Gonetodarkside

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    Then dont post anything and let those of us concerned with the future of our and our children's country handle this.
     
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    Then post in a different thread.
     
  11. UTKEngineer

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    I did. It's linked above.

    If you don't like people pointing out that this is a non-issue, why don't you yell at the OP. He started it after all.

     
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    he started it!!! :upeyes:

    I do not think anything that is considered that would affect my future to be a non issue.
     
  13. DR. HOUSE

    DR. HOUSE Everybody Lies

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    delete
     
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    you dont get to decide what issues are relevant, your just not that important.
     
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    DR. HOUSE Everybody Lies

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    Oh boo hoo, cry me a river........:crying:
     
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    DR. HOUSE Everybody Lies

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    Great example..................

    What stupid laws and rules hasnt cali. put in place?

    They are a backwords state.

    Micro stamping will never happen state wide, Just in states that need it or may benefit from it greatly.
     
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    DR. HOUSE Everybody Lies

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    you crack me up, shouldnt you be in school?
     
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    Just stop, you have allready crapped all over this thread enough.
     
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    DR. HOUSE Everybody Lies

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    :rofl::rofl:

    You gonna go cry to your momma?

    How did I "crap" on this thread.

    All I did was post my point of view and you came on here and cried and threw a fit because it wasnt what you wanted to hear.
     
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